# Enough of this fraggin' New England weather! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 3, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009 "2017-06-03T15:41:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/41 "2017-06-06T00:44:03Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Leave NE, fine by me. But I’d be surprised if the happiness you seek will have anything to do with what town you’re in. This. It doesn’t matter where the OP moves, he’ll be just as [del]insufferable[/del] miserable as he is now. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/42 "2017-06-06T02:02:51Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I heard once that a biotech company bought out the old New England Confectionery Company (maker of Necco wafers) building in Cambridge. They had to sandblast the whole interior; the walls are brick, and sugar from decades of candy making had permeated the pores of the bricks. They didn’t want any biological contamination to start feeding on the sugar. > > It wasn’t that long ago, but I can’t find any reference to it online. Maybe it was an urban legend that never caught on. There’s the Squirrel Brand Building on Broadway in Cambridge. That was used by a different company (not NECCO who’s building is still in use) and was used for tech before being converted to low incoming housing in 2004. That could be the origin of the story. Nearly all the bio tech buildings in the area are purpose built. There are some old buildings used for biotech at One Kendall Square, they might have been used for candy at one point. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/43 "2017-06-06T02:16:47Z")
> [@splatterpunk](#): > > This. It doesn’t matter where the OP moves, he’ll be just as [del]insufferable[/del] miserable as he is now. I found this whole exchange amusing. \*NE weather is the worst \>Actually we just had a great Cape Cod trip \*Sure to visit, but not year round! \>Well, I actually am hoping to retire there \*Sure to rot there or visit, but not to live your real life… \> Oy ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/44 "2017-06-06T02:29:25Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Wait, you were bitching about the weather, and ITD said she thought the weather was awesome when she was just there - so now it’s not the weather it’s everything else? The weather \*while she was there… \*c.f. weather year round. Any spot on earth has at least a few days lovely to visit on. > [@splatterpunk](#): > > This. It doesn’t matter where the OP moves, he’ll be just as [del]insufferable[/del] miserable as he is now. Not over the insufferably shitty weather. I can deal with everything else. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/45 "2017-06-06T02:31:00Z")
Speaking of the sweet stuff, I get the feeling that Boston never got past [its tacky history](http://mentalfloss.com/article/27366/bostons-great-molasses-flood-1919). ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/46 "2017-06-06T02:34:39Z")
> [@Tee](#): > > No idea what he’s going on about, but it’s cold. > > We have four seasons - summer, leaves, cold, and mud. Summer is late this year, we’re still at cold/mud, in _ **June,** _ and that’s just bullshit. That sounds about right ! LOL! Yeah it’s cold here and muddy here and it going to really muddy b/c it going rain heavy Tuesday ! I hate the ice more than anything else now that I am old . ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/47 "2017-06-06T02:47:08Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > The weather \*while she was there… \*c.f. weather year round. Any spot on earth has at least a few days lovely to visit on. > > Not over the insufferably shitty weather. I can deal with everything else. And then I said I lived in New England for a large chunk of my adult life and I visit the Cape often and at different times of the year, and enjoy the weather. I’m not sure why you’re so invested in my being wrong about my preferences… ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/48 "2017-06-06T03:08:50Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > And then I said I lived in New England for a large chunk of my adult life and I visit the Cape often and at different times of the year, and enjoy the weather. I’m not sure why you’re so invested in my being wrong about my preferences… I have absolutely no interest in Cape Cod despite working within reasonable distance to the bridges. I never understood the appeal myself but that is just a personal thing. The main problem I have with Cape Cod and the islands (Martha’s Vineyard and Nantucket) is that the extreme seasonality really screw up the full time workers and especially the kids raised there. Drug abuse (heroin and meth currently) are rampant. I have never met a kid raised on one of the islands that has anything good to say about it about it and they are really screwed up. It is 9 months of depressing weather and then, when things start to turn around, the billionaires start flying in to make it their personal playground and completely unaffordable to the working class people that maintain the islands year-round. The permanent residents have a very strange and incestuous culture. There is absolutely no way I would raise kids on either one. The land based Cape isn’t all that different. It is a solidly middle-class area during most of the gloomy months and then suddenly explodes during summer so many of the year round residents just rent out their houses and go someplace decent like the Caribbean for a lot less money. Massachusetts beach culture is bizarre to me. It isn’t an especially attractive area in general, the water is cold and you could go to a much nicer beach almost anywhere in the world for less money. I say the same thing about the Hamptons in New York. I have no idea why someone would spend a ton of money to rent somebody’s house 50 miles from home so that you can enjoy mini-golf, Italian buffets and angry people that freak out if you step even a foot unto their part of the beach. There is no rational reason for it other than historical inertia and nostalgia. I am glad you personally had a good time but I can promise you it isn’t universal. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/49 "2017-06-06T03:12:51Z")
Interestingly, the agent we were talking with Sunday said there is a huge Oct-June rental market for off season workers. I never knew that but it’s big business. I can say that your Cape experience is not mine. We enjoy Wellfleet immensely as well as Woods Hole. The arts and natural beauty abound on the cape. We don’t mini golf. Personally I can’t stand the bathtub temp of southern beaches. My college roomie was from Maine and we went up there a lots swim- Cape water temp is just fine. I don’t want the Caribbean. It’s not inertia- we vacation in SC, Bermuda, Florida and its nice, but I want rocks, and powerful water, and churning ocean. The power of it- not sunbathing and sipping daquiris. I live in NYC metro on Long Island. Heroin ODs are epidemic. Employment for new college grads is poor. Drug use in general is high. Its similar to what we saw in CT. It’s not a Cape thing. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/50 "2017-06-07T09:19:24Z")
Looks like the OP will get his wish soon. Boston area weather to be low 80s this weekend, upper 80s starting early next week. And me without my bedroom a/c yet. (The damn condo a/c doesn’t push quiiiiittte all the way to the end of the ductwork, which is the master bedroom. And there’s no vent in the upstairs bathroom. Moron builders and/or architect.) ITD: opioid OD’s are epidemic here, too, unfortunately. It’s a problem all over as far as I can tell. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Vorlon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@The\_Vorlon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Vorlon)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/51 "2017-06-07T14:05:18Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > Looks like the OP will get his wish soon. Boston area weather to be low 80s this weekend, upper 80s starting early next week. And me without my bedroom a/c yet. (The damn condo a/c doesn’t push quiiiiittte all the way to the end of the ductwork, which is the master bedroom. And there’s no vent in the upstairs bathroom. Moron builders and/or architect.) > > ITD: opioid OD’s are epidemic here, too, unfortunately. It’s a problem all over as far as I can tell. Umm, no bathroom vent in the Commonwealth? That’s a building code/health code violation. Not to mention a real stupid problem. Unless, of course, the Pilgrims moved in when they landed and the building is grandfathered in… ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/52 "2017-06-07T15:33:04Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > And then I said I lived in New England for a large chunk of my adult life and I visit the Cape often and at different times of the year, and enjoy the weather. I’m not sure why you’re so invested in my being wrong about my preferences… I’m not. But I’m sure there are people whacking themselves in the head with hammers who insist they just love the feeling. Yeah, NE has nice days. A handful of them a year. And if you’re going to leave CT for the Cape when the latter is having a nice day, and come back for the (usually decent) fall weather, I guess you’re okay. My whole point was that we have to live somewhere 365 days a year, and if the proportion of good days to crappy ones is too low, I don’t care how nice it can be fifty miles east while I’m staring out at noontime twilight gloom, or sucking in half-liquid air. > [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > Looks like the OP will get his wish soon. My wish is for good weather, not a turn from this gray gloom and rain to the hot, humid shit. Which is what’s likely to happen later this week. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/53 "2017-06-07T15:45:18Z")
Every day that is “cold” and gloomy is a day that is not hot. I love it! Cool nights falling asleep to the pitter-patter of rain, not putting the AC in yet, running the heat in my subterranean lair to take the edge off - the best. Sadly it will be too hot soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/54 "2017-06-07T16:35:59Z")
Frankly, I love the weather we’ve been having the past two weeks. As long as they can get the games in at Fenway I’m happy. There’s no such thing as bad weather, just inadequate clothing. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/55 "2017-06-07T16:51:04Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > I actually lived in CT and Boston most of my adult life. I grew up in Buffalo, for ffs. > > I also spend chunks of time on the Cape at all times of the year and we’re already looking at retirement options on the Cape, so there you go. I’d love to retire on the Cape. And I agree that it’s lovely any time of year. I’m particularly fond of the fall, but I’ll take whatever I can get. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/56 "2017-06-07T17:10:50Z")
> [@splatterpunk](#): > > This. It doesn’t matter where the OP moves, he’ll be just as [del]insufferable[/del] miserable as he is now. Not fair, the OP just hates people who bitch away. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/57 "2017-06-07T18:09:02Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > Not fair, the OP just hates people who bitch away. Huh? ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/58 "2017-06-07T19:01:50Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > I’d get less irritated at this kind of bitching if the bitcher would at least acknowledge that the place they hate so much has everything their life needed, and the place they adore is only good to sit, grow old and rot in. > [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > Not fair, the OP just hates people who bitch away. > [@raventhief](#): > > Huh? No negativity ! ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/59 "2017-06-07T21:08:00Z")
The entire OP is bitching . The remark he called bitching, actually wasn’t. This was the remark he referred to “this type of bitching”: Originally Posted by IvoryTowerDenizen View Post I also spend chunks of time on the Cape at all times of the year and we’re already looking at retirement options on the Cape, so there you go. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009/60 "2017-06-07T22:47:17Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > The entire OP is bitching . The remark he called bitching, actually wasn’t. > > This was the remark he referred to “this type of bitching”: > > Originally Posted by IvoryTowerDenizen View Post > I also spend chunks of time on the Cape at all times of the year and we’re already looking at retirement options on the Cape, so there you go. If you disagree with the OP, you’re bitching. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-of-this-fraggin-new-england-weather/788009.md?page=4)