# Enough with the Francophobia! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 1, 2003, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-francophobia/158341 "2003-03-01T05:40:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2003, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-francophobia/158341/61 "2003-03-03T13:20:29Z")
> [@](#): > > _originally posted by Brutus_ > Your logic sucks, but hey, its a free country. Iraq isn’t, yet. Neither is China. Or Zimbabwe. Or North Korea. When are we invading them? > [@](#): > > (And would never be, if the decision was in the hands of the Friends of Saddam crowd.) Who is this crowd you refer to? ---
**Author:** ![CuriousCanuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@CuriousCanuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CuriousCanuck)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2003, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-francophobia/158341/62 "2003-03-03T15:24:34Z")
Let’s get back to the beer! Coldfire: Pleeeease send me a case of Jupiler? I’ll send you a case of and Canadian beer you want! 🙂 (Come on Americans, I DARE you snigger at my offer… you unlucky people down there… with your “canoe sex beer”) Oh, and can you throw in a bottle of Pisang? 🙂 Also, I recommend Duvel, Orval, Ciney, Chimay… mmm Belgian beer GOOD. OK… you may now return to the OP. On that note: Brutus, please stop posting to this thread until after your World Affairs IQ rises above room temperature. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2003, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-francophobia/158341/63 "2003-03-03T18:45:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kung fu lola \* > On CBC radio they interviewed a politician from Florida who was trying to rename French Fries. > He sounded like a completely juvenile dumbass with way too much time on his hands. > Is this the image Americans are _trying_ to project? Do they realize how ridiculous this makes them look? Unfortunately, **grasshopper** , the media actively searches out this insanity and broadcasts it indiscriminately. People with sane opinions and moderate viewpoints don’t make for good TV. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2003, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-francophobia/158341/64 "2003-03-03T19:49:36Z")
I have heard marvelous things about Grolsch, but here in benighted New York City, I can only get the export. It’s decent and all, but hardly anything to soil my jeans about. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2003, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-francophobia/158341/65 "2003-03-03T20:39:37Z")
All this time and nobody has commented on the thread title? Francophobia would be _fear_ of the French, not hatred. If anything, many posts are suggesting that there is nothing to fear from them. Might I suggest “misofrancia” instead? Or does that sound too much like the name of a red wine? Or a skin disease? ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-francophobia/158341/66 "2003-03-04T08:31:44Z")
Peyote, Heineken is NOT superior to Grolsch. It just isn’t. Period. 🙂 Other decent Dutch pilsners that might be available abroad: Dommelsch, Brand, Gulpener. Probably all hard to get by, but it might be possible. The really obscure ones that I doubt are exported at all: De Kroon and Alfa. No argument about Chimay, and the list of Belgian beers CuriousCanuck offered. We have to bow deep to the Belgians when it comes to beer: they’re the world champions, followed by the Germans and the Irish. The Dutch might make the top ten, but we can only dream of the rich history and culture Belgium has when it comes to beer. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-francophobia/158341/67 "2003-03-04T08:34:01Z")
To give you an idea of how serious the Belgians take their beer: [The 24 hours of Belgian Beer](http://www.24-uur.be/indexen.htm). I’ve been there a couple of times, and it’s pure magic. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Doris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@Sir\_Doris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Doris)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-francophobia/158341/68 "2003-03-04T10:58:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > \*\*they’re the world champions, followed by the Germans and the Irish \*\* Irish beer? That’d be Harp or Smithwicks, wouldn’t it? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-francophobia/158341/69 "2003-03-04T13:21:30Z")
Smithwicks is more of an ale 😉 Where is the people in here to tell jokes about French shaving or cleaning habits? Clint? Clint in Wichita? are you there? I’m down with the OP. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-francophobia/158341.md?page=3)