# Enough with the fucking Anti Anti Fat people! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 3, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690 "2003-03-03T01:08:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/141 "2003-03-04T22:14:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sperfur \* > \*\*So I was right the first time? **Philster** really is a turd? I’m sooooooooo relieved! 😃 > > Oh, and **CanvasShoes** , I owe you an apology. I was defensive (I blame **Philster** , **Indygrrl** , and **Tars Tarkus** - they were poking me), and I was poking back. I assumed you were poking me, too. Sorry! \*\* You didn’t seem defensive at all to me. I was trying to post two websites, but seem to be having SDMB probs today. I had to laugh at your previous post, because I do the same thing, write something as briefly as possible, and then find later I should have added more after all. (Even though I’ve dyed my hair brunette, I’m naturally blonde, please speak slowly,hehe) Anyway, here are two sites for you to start with. One is an online support group, ignore their particular weight loss program if you like, the support is well worth it, even if you aren’t interested in their program. The second is a doctor that specializes in fitness. > **[Yahoo | Mail, Weather, Search, Politics, News, Finance, Sports & Videos](https://www.yahoo.com/)** > > Latest news coverage, email, free stock quotes, live scores and video are just the beginning. Discover more every day at Yahoo! [http://www.hussman.org/fitness](http://www.hussman.org/fitness) Good luck!!! ---
**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/142 "2003-03-04T22:17:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by alice\_in\_wonderland \* > \*\ ***Lola** , I consume at least 2,500 calories a day - usually more like 3,000. > > I’ve posted pics of myself many times - the teeming millions can make their own judgements as to weather I’m overweight. \*\* That’s cool, **alice**. I was just responding to your “who are these women” query. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/143 "2003-03-04T22:24:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Indygrrl \* > \*\*Btw, I am nice to the dieting ladies in my office, after all, they bring me cake.😃 \*\* I hear you. 🙂 Agreed that you can’t complain about the effort if you’re not making the effort. I just don’t think that characterizes all overweight people. I honestly think my husband eats no more than I do…but I burn it fast. I’m slightly more active. I have time to be while he’s kind of tied to his desk most of the day. His mother is (or was) a very round woman who doesn’t seem to eat much at all…that was a mystery to me. But what she always did was wait to eat until she’d be at the point of fainting, or pick at things here and there, and _after_ she was done with the day’s work she’d sit down to a huge meal. And not a very nutritious one at that. She had to unlearn that, and eat better and more often…over time of course she’s been losing it. He has to do the same, and stop with the “I’m too busy to have a decent lunch or breakfast” thing, and fourteen cups of coffee every day doesn’t help either. That’s his business though…I try to be supportive and non-lecturing at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/144 "2003-03-04T22:24:42Z")
But really - I mean, I work out quite a bit. Probably more than the average bear, but still - I need _TWICE_ as many calories as the average woman? Thats nutty. (Or I’m a big shwank.)🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/145 "2003-03-04T22:30:44Z")
**alice** , you can always tell people that your superior intelligence taxes your brain so much that you burn 1000 calories a day just thinking! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/146 "2003-03-04T22:37:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jayjay \* > \*\ ***alice** , you can always tell people that your superior intelligence taxes your brain so much that you burn 1000 calories a day just thinking! 😃 \*\* Now _THIS_ is a good idea. If you’re ever in Calgary, I’ll have to buy you a beer. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/147 "2003-03-05T00:47:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jlzania \* > \*\ ***Phil** , I haven’t called you any names. > Please answer my question on how you’re going to avoid the side effects of aging. \*\* OMG! You’re right! I’m fucked! I’m gonna get old! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! Might as well fatten up and develop diabetes along the way. WHEW! Thanks for the killer revelation. I’ll age like my parents. We’ll do our best to take care of ourselves and maintain as much mobility as possible. Oh, gotta run. My 400 lb mother in law needs a ride to have her knee replacements checked. I was going to coach hockey again this year, and would usually be at a practice on a night like this, but since my 310 lb friend can’t skate anymore, it kind of takes the fun out of it. Aging does suck. ---
**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/148 "2003-03-05T03:22:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by LolaCocaCola \* > According to the doctor in the link below, the average woman should consume 1200 calories daily and the average man 1800 calories. Even women who are about as big as guys? (You’ve seen me Lola. I’ve lost a few pounds since then and maybe gained an inch in height. I doubt I eat just 1200 calories a day. I probably _would_ faint if I did.) But in general to this thread. It does annoy me that people equate fat with loser. Not all of us bigger people are fat by choice (I have worked hard to change my eating habits, and though still not the best I eat better then I did) and even then I am rubust. Like those ladies in paintings from the Renaissance That’s about my body shape only taller 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/149 "2003-03-05T13:30:38Z")
> [@](#): > > Aging does suck. But that’s not the point. **Phil**. It doesn’t have to suck. My 78 yr old FIL and my 73 yr old MIL are living proof. I’m all for staying in decent shape which is not the same thing as being obsessive about your appearance or defining yourself as “hot”. Or mocking other people because they don’t match your standards. ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/150 "2003-03-05T14:36:00Z")
It was sarcasm. It does not have to suck. However, so much of what we call aging is just people getting out of shape, and obesity is the first sign. I’m not obsessive. I am trying to highlite the fact that it takes attention, care and effort to stay in shape. Not like psycho gym warriors, but enough so that at age 35, or 45, or 75 that you haven’t beaten your body down any further than the course of time would have. I apologize to anyone I offended if I can ge this off my chest: Other people being fat sucks for me. I have friends that can’t even play a game of touch football. We used to play ice hockey and coach, but their weight is such an obstacle that these activities are out the window. All they want to do is golf. We don’t play volleyball at parties. If it isn’t golf, it’s fishing. This is not aging, it’s my friends and family and coworkers getting fat and getting lazy. My mother-in-law is all about food. She can’t walk for crissakes. I have coworkers that I have to sit next to on airplanes and I DO NOT want to sit next to them. Five-hour flights are hell, and if I change my seat, it’s embarrasing. How can I bring that up? Enough! I say. Alot of aging is just people getting sloppy, eating too much, moving to little and giving up, resigning themselves to being couch potatoes. I know one or two people that can do anything active, or get interested in going to the beach, or anything other than a friggin’ cruise, or fishing or golf!!! DONE. I’m done with all the overwieght, undermotivated people. …and the excuses. What am I blind? I see you people, I know you people and you all SUCK! I’m MAD. I’m fed up. I don’t even know if can apologize because I’d rather bitch slap everyone fat person that is a burden to me. No. I won’t say things to strangers, and I’ll offer sincere help to those I know. But at some point - which I might have reached -, I’ll just wanna shove a twinkie up all their asses and bury them in big fat gellatinous blob of goo that they can suck on for eternity until their fat asses bust out the seams of their fat people clothes!!! GOODBYE! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/151 "2003-03-05T15:09:02Z")
Goodness. Someone has issues. ---
**Author:** ![Profane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47774/32.png) [@Profane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Profane)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/152 "2003-03-05T15:27:44Z")
I suggest therapy. ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/153 "2003-03-05T18:35:05Z")
Phil should go eat a flaming bag of hell. (not really, I saw someone say that on here and found it amusing.) ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/154 "2003-03-05T18:38:19Z")
Maybe he should go eat a flaming bag of BBQ. He might be a tad less uptight if he wasn’t so hungry all the time from his strict diet regimine ---
**Author:** ![SonOfArizona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SonOfArizona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SonOfArizona)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/155 "2003-03-05T21:47:48Z")
Most guys are not attracted to overweight women. Many people blame it on society pushing forth the thin, fit look. But I can’t speak for other guys, but while the fat itself turns me off, even more so its that they allowed themselves to get that way. The vast majority of overweight people do not like being overweight. They want to be thin. They just can’t do it. While I feel for the very few who have some thyroid/metabolism problem and no matter what they do they cannot drop the weight, I know that most people are fat because they just don’t have the will-power to stick to a diet and are too lazy to take on a rigorous workout plan. As unattractive as being fat is, the idea that they are lazy and lacking will-power is worse. You see it on TV all the time, you see these huge people on talk shows claiming they have tried everything, you see them in the informercials talking about the new miracle pill they found when nothing else works. The very fact that these pills even sell proves the laziness I am talking about. Instead of putting on the sweats and jogging off to the gym to jog some more, and instead of putting down the fork and picking up some dumbells, all these overweight people are turning to miracle diets, a quick easy fix. This laziness makes me sick. Nobody should be buying into these things. Nobody should be spending hundreds of dollars on magic capsules when all it takes is hard work to get the very results the informercials claim. I know people who have lost a lot of weight. It takes work, it takes hard work. I also know people who are self loathing fat shits who complain how everyone hates them for being fat while shoveling french fries into their mouths with both hands. The same people that claim to be on a diet, but can’t resist the candy bar in the vending machine, the same people who claim to be exercising, but see no results. I don’t follow them around all day, but if its anything like their dieting habits, their exercise plan probably revolves around lifting a remote control every thirty seconds to change the channel. Maybe they put some resistance on their mouse scroll so it takes a little effort to move the little guy around, who knows? These people disgust me. And it is what I think whenever I see someone overweight. If someone wants to lose weight, there is no reason why they aren’t… unless… The only fat person I can accept is one that is happy about being fat, and I dont mean just on the outside, but on the inside too. If offered a chance to become thin, they would turn it down. Otherwise, it means that they are just too damned lazy and just dont have the will power to improve themselves. Now that truly makes me sick. ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/156 "2003-03-05T21:53:50Z")
> [@](#): > > As unattractive as being fat is, the idea that they are lazy and lacking will-power is worse. Unless, of course, what they can’t resist is your stunning logic and animal magnetism, which is of course the real issue of importance. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/157 "2003-03-05T22:04:34Z")
Holy Cow **Phil**! Were you chased by fat homicidal clowns armed with pies when you were a child? ---
**Author:** ![Profane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47774/32.png) [@Profane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Profane)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/158 "2003-03-05T22:24:11Z")
**You actually think you are better than someone else because you weigh less? Because you have more willpower? You aren’t. You are much, much uglier than they are. On the inside, where it _really_ counts.** ---
**Author:** ![SonOfArizona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SonOfArizona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SonOfArizona)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/159 "2003-03-05T22:33:37Z")
> [@](#): > > You actually think you are better than someone else because you weigh less? Because you have more willpower? You aren’t. You are much, much uglier than they are. On the inside, where it really counts. Yes, I do think I am better because I have more willpower. Being a determined, strong minded person is one of the most important qualities a person can have. And it CERTAINLY doesn’t make me ugly on the inside. I do not and never will pity overweight people. I am sorry but I don’t see why I should. I am much more inclined to pity a bald guy, a short guy, a woman with small breasts even, because these things are genetic. They can’t help it - there is nothing they can do about it (on their own anyway). While people claim being overweight is something passed through genes, let’s not succumb to this bullshit. As I said, I feel for the very few who have thyroid problems, but other than them, these people are overweight because they eat too much and exercise too little. It is as simple as that. Unless they like being fat, overweight people have no excuse to not be working out or at least watching what they eat. It is not that hard. Fatty foods taste good but think how short term taste is. You will feel just as full after a healthy meal as after a fatty meal at McDonald’s. A fat person may be the greatest nicest person on the inside, but if they want to be thin, and aren’t, that means they are lazy and lacking will power. I am not saying that person is bad. I am not saying I will treat them any differently. I am saying that deep down I am thinking, “wow how can this person allow himself/herself to get this way.” ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690/160 "2003-03-05T22:45:57Z")
Well. I think we can all agree that the SDMB has become a much more enlightened place now that **SonOfArizona** has arrived. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-anti-anti-fat-people/158690.md?page=9)