# Enough with the fucking nazis already! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 15, 2004, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330 "2004-03-15T00:40:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330/61 "2004-03-16T03:05:39Z")
And I didn’t say that the Black Muslims have any plans hatching to gas or shoot white kids, either, but you missed It’s not an equivication of degrees, it’s the similarity of those **two ideologies that I put in boldface** so it would be easy for you. But of course, as an idealogue, you’re indifferent an equal slander of the Black Muslims - it’s only injustice if your ox is being gored. “Shithead?” “You ass?” Is how “fellow human beings” voice dissent? Let me remind you that only fools think that a debate can be won by turning it into a quarrel. Go ahead and wear your “ism” as a badge of pride, but it’s been tarnished not by “extremists,” but by people who were satisfied to rest on the accomplishments of those earlier generations you cited, without doing anything themselves except lazily let things devolve into knee-jerk man-bashing. ---
**Author:** ![Tanaqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Tanaqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaqui)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330/62 "2004-03-16T03:20:11Z")
> [@Slithy Tove](#): > > It’s not an equivication of degrees, it’s the similarity of those **two ideologies that I put in boldface** so it would be easy for you. Yeah, I read that. If you read my post, you’d see how I pointed out how much bullshit I thought your points were. Namely A) feminism does not equal the belief that women deserve more than men and B) feminism does not equal the belief that all troubles were brought on women by men (because that implies feminism is about blaming someone–again, bullshite.) > [@](#): > > But of course, as an idealogue, you’re indifferent an equal slander of the Black Muslims - it’s only injustice if your ox is being gored. I don’t really know enough about Black Muslims to defend them, sorry. > [@](#): > > “Shithead?” “You ass?” Is how “fellow human beings” voice dissent? Well, yes, yes it is. At least it is when we’re in the Pit. And when you tell me that feminists think they deserve more than men. You never answered my question–do civil rights activists also fit into your convenient little category? What about gay rights activists? > [@](#): > > Go ahead and wear your “ism” as a badge of pride, but it’s been tarnished not by “extremists,” but by people who were satisfied to rest on the accomplishments of those earlier generations you cited, without doing anything themselves except lazily let things devolve into knee-jerk man-bashing. I don’t particularly consider myself a feminist, except to the degree that most women who enjoy the right to vote are. I’ve never met one single feminist who believed women deserved anything more than a man–that’s not to say they don’t exist, but they’re far from being particularly common, and when you insult feminism, you insult all the women who fought to defend women’s rights. If you disagree with some parts of feminism, that’s just fine with me. So do I. But if you’re going to insult all feminists as some sort of enormous man-hating brigade composed of wimps who blame others for all their problems, then I will call you an ass. Because that’s what you are. ---
**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330/63 "2004-03-16T03:56:38Z")
> [@Salvador](#): > > Daddy is going to get laid…that is what my girlfriend rrrRRosita calls me when the going gets hot. Is rrrRRosita a blow-up doll or simply a figment of your imagination? ---
**Author:** ![Dragonblink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dragonblink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragonblink)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330/64 "2004-03-16T04:16:53Z")
Oh, us silly Americans, we don’t know shit about geography, do we. Here I was thinking the Mediterranean had two sides, a north side (Europe) and a south side (Africa). Turns out it only has the north side. I’ve learned something today! – Dragonblink, proud great-granddaughter of a medicine woman. Put that drop of blood in your peace pipe and smoke it. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330/65 "2004-03-16T04:20:22Z")
Well, I won’t able to sleep tonight, knowing that somewhere in America a sheep named rrrRRosita is being molested. ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330/66 "2004-03-16T04:23:12Z")
Bad news, folks. There’s a new one: **FenrisSF** (not to be confused with **Fenris** ). ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330/67 "2004-03-16T04:25:36Z")
> [@skutir](#): > > Is rrrRRosita a blow-up doll or simply a figment of your imagination? > [@Little Nemo](#): > > Well, I won’t able to sleep tonight, knowing that somewhere in America a sheep named rrrRRosita is being molested. Combine the two and you get [this](http://www.muttonbone.com/loveewe.html). 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330/68 "2004-03-16T06:01:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Check it out, Marley23 can be offensive, funny, witty and ignorant all in one post. Hey, at least I can be funny and witty. You’ve got a better handle than I possibly could on the others. > [@](#): > > Then in nine months, a little bambino. That, however, DOES make me sad. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330/69 "2004-03-16T09:11:19Z")
> [@skutir](#): > > Is rrrRRosita a blow-up doll or simply a figment of your imagination? Or rrrRRosita Palm, who has five lovely daughters. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330/70 "2004-03-16T12:23:18Z")
> [@Slithy Tove](#): > > I’m sorry they’re here too, but all the “asshat, fucktard” and “gobshite” calling won’t send them away. These guys are largely the diposessed kids of a diposable working class, bred in the broken homes, meth labs and juvenile detention facillities of America. Cussing them out will have about the same impact as a fart in a rendering plant. > > Like Astroboy14, I believe the Nazis did, uh, clarify the issues for us. For me, it has been a simple model by which all ideologies can be tested: > > \*\*(1) I deserve privilege not due to any personal accomplishment of my own, but by virtue of being born into a particular group > > (2) All my group’s problems are the fault of some other outside groups(s)\*\* Quite an astute and concise set of observations, I think. I won’t say anything about the groups you listed though, but may I tentatively suggest the addition of: **(3) ‘Open-mindedness’ is defined as uncritical acceptance of what I say, ‘Closed-mindedness’ is anything else.** ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330/71 "2004-03-16T15:55:10Z")
> [@Salvador](#): > > I’m not anti anyone, but I am pro white, just like a Jew is pro Zionist and Bolshevik > [snip] > > Anything wrong with that?? 😕 Well, for starters, you’re definitely wrong about all Jews either being Bolsheviks or Zionists. To be sure, some early Bolshevik leaders were of Jewish origin, but well, Bolshevism being an aggressively atheist political philosophy and all, being a diehard Bolshevik is rather incompatible with being an observant Jew. I’m trying to find some stats on Jewish public opinion toward Zionism and/or Bolshevism, but so far I can’t find any actual statistics; probably a good 80% of what I’ve found so far is more hate literature talking about Jewish conspiracies to take over the world, and a number of links have been disgusting enough that my work filter is blocking them entirely. But for the moment, I bring you these folks: [www.nimn.org](http://www.nimn.org) And frankly, given how little you actually seem open to debate or information that doesn’t fit into your rather skewed worldview, I’m not inclined to spend a lot of time finding information for you. I’m too busy bringing in various brown people (educated, English-speaking professionals, all of them, by the way) to steal American jobs. Eva Luna, Immigration Paralegal and Jewish agnostic who is pro-social justice, period, regardless of religion or ethnicity ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330/72 "2004-03-16T16:37:34Z")
> [@](#): > > Well, for starters, you’re definitely wrong about all Jews either being Bolsheviks or Zionists. To be sure, some early Bolshevik leaders were of Jewish origin, but well, Bolshevism being an aggressively atheist political philosophy and all, being a diehard Bolshevik is rather incompatible with being an observant Jew. Not only that, Stalin’s mass murder of Russian Jews pretty much eliminated Jewish support for Communism anywhere. **Sal** , if you’re looking to impress us next time, why not just whip out the tape measure and post “Wow, it’s three inches long!” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330/73 "2004-03-16T17:30:09Z")
> [@Slithy Tove](#): > > Like Astroboy14, I believe the Nazis did, uh, clarify the issues for us. For me, it has been a simple model by which all ideologies can be tested: > > (1) I deserve privilege not due to any personal accomplishment of my own, but by virtue of being born into a particular group > > (2) All my group’s problems are the fault of some other outside groups(s) This is good - very good indeed. Concise, but complete. Insightful, and nicely put. And, of course, therefore beyond the grasp of those it explains. Nicely put, **Slithy**. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330/74 "2004-03-16T17:46:30Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Then in nine months, a little bambino. > > That, however, DOES make me sad. Makes me confused. He’s supposed to be of Spanish descent so what’s with the Italian? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330/75 "2004-03-17T13:46:18Z")
I don’t know. I’m confused why he calls her “Rosita” after all the horrible things he said about Latin people. Maybe it’s the same as Franklin Philly making Mexican jokes, they think it shows their wit when it’s actually just more racism. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enough-with-the-fucking-nazis-already/234330.md?page=3)