# Enterprise Anomaly Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 17, 2003, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074 "2003-09-17T02:53:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![av8rmike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@av8rmike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/av8rmike)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/61 "2003-09-18T17:29:24Z")
In a similar vein as the “what was the plot” idea, what was the climax of the episode? _Downloading_. Basically they were hacking the enemy ship and downloading stuff. One of my friends made the comment that it was like trying to create dramatic tension out of downloading porn. “Only 10% more, and we get to see Capt. Janeway naked!” “We must sever the connection! The shields can’t take another hit!” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/62 "2003-09-18T17:42:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vibrotronica \* > \*\* > > Q: Is the thing-that-is-not-the-Death-Star responsible for all of the anomalies in the Expanse? \*\* I reckon we’ll find out as the arc continues. Interesting that it is a couple of thousand years old and plays a part in a time travel plot. I spoke in jest about buying rope. Yet there are complaints that it is an arc, and that it’s not. That is steals from Star Wars, from Firefly, etc. Gotta goto the hardware store now, check you later. ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/63 "2003-09-18T17:58:16Z")
Thanks, **NoClueBoy**. I only joined to have my ego stroked. 🙂 I believe they mentioned that the Death Star was “possibly” causing the anomalies (always leave your plotlines open). So in a thousand years why haven’t the Xindis just blown 'em up? I think it was cute that they were at a Trellium-D mine and didn’t get any because they didn’t know it was really useful. Why is it that Every person and Every thing encountered always has to fill in a piece of the puzzle? Can’t something turn out to be a red herring because you made an ass-umption? Can’t wait for Archer to beat the shit out of some poor alien and then find out the guy really has never heard of the Xindi. Or maybe he just needs some neuro-pressure. ---
**Author:** ![kasuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8c91f0/32.png) [@kasuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kasuo)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/64 "2003-09-18T19:15:39Z")
You’d think they would try to go back to the previous mining colony and try to sneak past the 3 warships to get some of that mineral. Maybe the warships are too much for Enterprise. And yeah, I’m not looking forward to next week’s ep: _Extinction_. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/65 "2003-09-18T19:42:24Z")
**Cervaise, RikWriter, kasuo, etc:** Okay, “Extinction” doesn’t look so hot in the previews. But remember the previews for “Cogenitor”? They made it look like some hilarious sex romp, and it certainly wasn’t. You never know. I just hope I’m right about this. I’ve got hope. I’ve got faith of the…oops, never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/66 "2003-09-18T19:46:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by av8rmike \* > **Basically they were hacking the enemy ship and downloading stuff.** I’ll be amused if the new NX-02 currently sitting in spacedock is named the _U.S.S. Kazaa._ My preference re the mysterious sphere? This may not be a popular choice, but I’d love it if _they never come back to it again._ Leave it a mystery. The Expanse is supposed to be this weird and difficult region of space where people go in but rarely come out; there’s be all _sorts_ of bizarre stuff floating around in the gravitational backwaters. Why do we have to explain everything? Besides, from a practical standpoint, what this team of writers can come up with is unlikely to compete with the multitude of alternatives I’m imagining, so it’s far cooler to let me have my _frissons_ of “whoa, neat”-ness. ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/67 "2003-09-18T20:15:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RikWriter \* > \*\*Sorry to be a crass barbarian or whatever, but I don’t NEED a “moral” of the story, or some philosophical message on the human existence from a science fiction series. If they can fit it in while still telling a good yarn and good action, that’s great, but I watch TV science fiction for the fun of it. > \*\* That was not my complaint. I just mentioned that Enterprise is not really Star Trek it just happens to be set in the same universe. Star Trek was about something Enterprise is not. That doesn’t have to be a bad thing, just a way for me to cope with the jarring differences. That is all I was saying you CRASS BARBARIAN 😛 NE XT WEEK Exinction… Who is ready for Genesis II… (why does that sound familar?) ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/68 "2003-09-18T20:24:00Z")
Why are all big and round space vessels compared to the Death Star? Does no one remember [the](http://www.trek5.com/caps/tos/03_corbomite/pages/03_corb_136.htm) [Fesarius?](http://www.trek5.com/caps/tos/03_corbomite/pages/03_corb_137.htm) ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/69 "2003-09-18T21:21:25Z")
But, we haven’t met Blalock yet ( I mean [Balok](http://www.ericweisstein.com/fun/startrek/TheCorbomiteManeuver.html), sorry). And the Death Star existed long ago, in a galaxy far away, so it’s common knowledge. At least, it’s common knowledge now that we’ve got out into space to meet all sorts of really old and weird races. HEY! I think I did it! I successfully theorised how _Trek_ and _Wars_ can coexist! :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/70 "2003-09-18T21:59:48Z")
> [@](#): > > from _Tars Tarkas_ > I got that the Death Star dealies were the cause of the anomolies, and that the giant fusion powered batteries where making it cause the anomolies. I got that impression, too – and I thought that Archer and Co. were perhaps going to try to destroy the Death Star before the episode was over, and end the anomalies in that region. > [@](#): > > from _peterW_ > How many bets that the remaining 10% of the data that was not downloaded will come into play in the next episodes? Of course it will – that’s a no-brainer! There will be some key missing piece of a puzzle – located in the 10% they didn’t get. But when they hit the other ship’s engines – they had said that such a hit “might” knock down their main computer, not “would definitely”. Did Enterprise even **try** to continue the database transfer after that shot? Also, now that their ship is crippled, why not force the other ship into surrender mode, send over an occupying force, and get the rest of the database? (Then let them go afterwards, human morality and mercy and all that). > [@](#): > > from _Cervaise_ > The Expanse is supposed to be this weird and difficult region of space where people go in but rarely come out And didn’t the alien guy say something about “we tried to get out – you can only get in through that cloud, but it doesn’t let you out” or something like that. I presumed he was talking about the entrance to the Expanse. So then what about the video logs of the Vulcan ship from the end of last season that was coming **out** of the Expanse and the crew members were going all _Event Horizon_ on each other? ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/71 "2003-09-19T00:14:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Corner Case \* > \*\*I think it was cute that they were at a Trellium-D mine and didn’t get any because they didn’t know it was really useful. Why is it that Every person and Every thing encountered always has to fill in a piece of the puzzle? Can’t something turn out to be a red herring because you made an ass-umption? Can’t wait for Archer to beat the shit out of some poor alien and then find out the guy really has never heard of the Xindi. Or maybe he just needs some neuro-pressure. \*\* At least there **is** a puzzle to be filled in this time around. _Trek_ usually has the crew discover some new and awesome technology every other week which **should** revolutionize the entire human species, but by next week everyone’s forgotten about it. (“We can travel at infinite speeds, with the only side effect being that we turn into lizards – and even _that_ can be cured by a hypospray!” “Yawn, what a useless technology. Let’s cruise around the Delta Quadrant for another 60 years instead.”) ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/72 "2003-09-19T04:00:48Z")
> [@](#): > > _peterw said_ > Anyone know if Star Fleet knows what Der Trilliam? (the material the captive mentioned as needed to prevent the anomalies) Regardless, why are they not carving up the sphere and/or the pirate ship to modify their hull? As mentioned they were at a trellium-d mine last ep. I didn’t see it mentioned yet (I admit I scanned a little) but did everyone notice the prisoner say that they are trapped by the cloud they entered through? The nebula whatsit? Has Enterprise “gone Voyager” and now must survive on their own in the Delta Expanse? ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/73 "2003-09-19T04:08:46Z")
What I don’t understand is how they’re trapped in an **INFINITELY LARGE THREE DIMENSIONAL SPACE**. I hate it when writers ignore the fact that these are starships in space, not navy vessels out in the Atlantic. There are always ways to go around. ---
**Author:** ![peterW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bb73d2/32.png) [@peterW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peterW)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/74 "2003-09-19T04:46:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CarnalK \* > \*\*Regardless, why are they not carving up the sphere and/or the pirate ship to modify their hull? As mentioned they were at a trellium-d mine last ep. > \*\* That would make too much sense. This way they can have an episodes in which they all turn into pretzels or have the head magically morphed onto their ass. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/75 "2003-09-19T05:03:39Z")
_–yawn–_ “Done that one.” ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/76 "2003-09-19T05:07:57Z")
> [@](#): > > from _CarnalK_ > I didn’t see it mentioned yet (I admit I scanned a little) but did everyone notice the prisoner say that they are trapped by the cloud they entered through? Yep – I commented on it two posts above yours. And I noticed it, but not really buying it. After all, at the end of last season, we had the video of the Vulcan ship coming **out** of the Expanse and turning on each other. Presumably to convince us that the Expanse is ScarySpookyBadPlace. (even though Hoshi hasn’t tried to disembowel Travis yet, and T’Pol still hasn’t gouged Archer’s eyes out…) ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/77 "2003-09-19T05:29:09Z")
Maybe subspace transmissions can escape the Expanse, but starships can’t. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/78 "2003-09-19T05:30:53Z")
… or maybe the prisoner alien didn’t mean that it was _physically_ impossible to leave the Expanse, only that you can’t get out of the Expanse _and retain your sanity_. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/79 "2003-09-19T06:51:37Z")
So far they’ve made it pretty clear you can’t get _into_ the Expanse and retain your shirt. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074/80 "2003-09-19T07:32:38Z")
Well, you can take the ship out of the expanse but you can’t ship your ex pants. Or is it, you can’t expand your shit? Eh, either way, at least we have a moral to the story. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-anomaly-spoilers/202074.md?page=5)