# Enterprise: Babel One Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 28, 2005, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095 "2005-01-28T12:18:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/41 "2005-02-01T03:03:28Z")
Yeah, I was just thinking of cutting out a piece of cloth and taping it on that pic so it would look like she was wearing a scarf over those bones. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/42 "2005-02-01T03:05:15Z")
Ya know, even a lover of skinny chicks like me would have a problem with how she looks now. Having her legs wrapped around me would likely cause some major contusions to my kidneys. Not to mention that fucking a girl that thin would be very much like maturbating into a wet sock. IOW, not very appealing anymore. Too bad, she used to be pretty damn hot, as far as my tastes go. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/43 "2005-02-01T03:10:35Z")
I’ve never found her that attractive and it’s not just because she’s tiny, either. Hell, I LOVE tiny… Nana Visitor, Linda Park, and Nicole de Boer are all probably around 5’2" and can’t weigh very much at all but they’re all healthy looking and have great figures whereas Jolene Blalock looks like a stick with a fishead and grapefruits glued to it. Not appealing at all. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/44 "2005-02-01T03:15:07Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > she used to be pretty damn hot, as far as my tastes go. Good gad, man how can you post that? You know the woman hangs on your every word. She’s crushed! The psychological damage… ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/45 "2005-02-01T03:20:58Z")
:dubious: She has me on ignore. Seems we disagree about whether or not Shelaht style is romantic. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/46 "2005-02-01T03:28:53Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Seems we disagree about whether or not Shelaht style is romantic. Is that where one of you kills and devours the other afterwards? Or is it before? ^:)^ ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/47 "2005-02-01T03:31:44Z")
It involves a horn in a very prominent way. And other pointy things. Hey, it’s all green on the inside. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/48 "2005-02-01T03:34:44Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > ^:)^ Hey, what _the…?!_ _VULCANS DON’T SMILE!_ ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/49 "2005-02-01T03:50:19Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Hey, it’s all green on the inside. A point which I shall not pursue. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/50 "2005-02-01T03:53:04Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > _VULCANS DON’T SMILE!_ Watch the TOS pilot sometime, pal. ^:dubious:^ ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/51 "2005-02-01T03:56:23Z")
Spock is half human so he can’t be used as a yardstick for Vulcan behaviour. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/52 "2005-02-01T12:57:53Z")
There is no need to be insulting. ^:)^ ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/53 "2005-02-01T17:35:31Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > I’ve never found her that attractive and it’s not just because she’s tiny, either. Hell, I LOVE tiny… Nana Visitor, Linda Park, and Nicole de Boer are all probably around 5’2" and can’t weigh very much at all but they’re all healthy looking and have great figures whereas Jolene Blalock looks like a stick with a fishead and grapefruits glued to it. > > Not appealing at all. I’m 5’3". Is that tiny enough? ---
**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/54 "2005-02-01T18:54:27Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > The air tank refilling device wouldn’t be very useful if it didn’t have a universal coupler on it… they are explorers and that’s going to mean not always being able to refill air from Starfleet standard O2 bottles. Except it wasn’t. They pulled out the hose and the fitting on the end miraculously perfectly matched a fitting on a piece of alien equiptment, one designed as part of a propulsion system, fer cryin’ out loud! Now what would have been cool was if he’d taken some sort of device out of his suit, stuck it on the end of the hose on the standard fitting, and stuck it on the side of the O2 pipe where it sealed itself to the pipe, drilled a hole into the thing, refilled the O2 tank, then sealed the hole. **That** would be a tool designed to work under extreme conditions! It’s not a big deal but it is a Hollywood SF tendendency that gets on my nerves and I feel occasionally compelled to point it out. It bugs me when ships designed by different species can swap parts like it’s nothing (sure, I’ve got some spare injectors and I’ll trade you for a set of warp coils). I can take two computers, one home-built and the other built by Dell (for example) and I wouldn’t be able to swap many of the parts. These devices, designed and built by human engineers using the same level of technology and intended to perform essentially the same function are not interchangeable. But alien engineers, working from a completely different history of design, somehow build engines with parts that are either easily adaptable or even completely interchangable with Starfleet parts. Right. It’s just one of those things that jumps out at me every now and then and jolts me out of suspension of disbelief. I usually just roll my eyes and go back to enjoying the story. > [@DWMarch](#): > > What bugged me more was the weak connection on the air hoses in the back. Malcolm’s comes off with a relatively minor impact and within seconds he’s down to less than ten minutes of air. The helmet air hoses shouldn’t be a snap in component! I did however like how easy it was for Trip to “donate” his air to Malcolm. It looked practical and sensible and easy to do, unlike last week where they couldn’t do basic medical functions with gloves on. I agree on both points, except for the bit about the gloves. The type of dexterity required for EVA work would likely be different than what’s necessary for medical work. Additionally, because EVA suits would have to work in a vacuum, the gloves would probably have to have more sturcture in order to maintain their integrity. However, considering the concerns about contamination, they should be equiped with with a medical version of the suit, designed to work in an atmosphere and with greater dexterity. Then you wouldn’t have silliness like sick away teams having to medicate themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/55 "2005-02-01T22:56:10Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > I’m 5’3". Is that tiny enough? In light of this revelation and the happy fun ball, yes. Yes, it is. Semi-related hijack: Do you have any interest at all in the West Coast Fest that’s being discussed off and on in MPSIMS? It might even be held in Reno so there’s an opportunity to lose some wages and everything. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/56 "2005-02-01T23:39:51Z")
I’ll check it out, though I’d be more inclined if it were closer than Reno. Hey, all: Marina Sirtis has denied rumors that she and Jonathan Frakes will appear on ENT. So maybe we can relax. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/57 "2005-02-01T23:46:24Z")
Well, it’s a West Coast thing. That’s already close to a thousand miles for people in Oregon and even more for the Washingtonians. \*\*Linus \*\*should come too. Peoria’s as far from Reno as Salem is. ENTFest! And thank god re: Troi and Riker. The idea of them on ENT makes me twitch. ---
**Author:** ![the\_Lady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@the\_Lady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_Lady)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/58 "2005-02-02T01:23:54Z")
Super Ditto on the Troi and Riker. Good god - I don’t even want to imagine how they thought they’d work that in. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/59 "2005-02-02T02:19:13Z")
“Work it in”? You mean, like, integrate the characters into the plot in an organic fashion, using them to enhance the world and story of _Enterprise_ in a narratively cohesive and dramatically satisfying manner? This is the Bermaga you’re talking about. Riker and Troi would have been “worked in” just like taking a shit on a pizza is “working it in.” “Work it in.” Heh. Heh heh. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095/60 "2005-02-02T12:16:35Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > There was a Sci-Fi art book, coffee table sized, from the 70s (1970s) that chronicled the expansion of humans into interstellar space and our first extraterrestial war (with Cetaurians). Humans won and had at the end an attack ship that looked virtually buglike. > > Almost exactly like the Romulan shroudship in this ep. I would wager someone at paramount had that same book. I wish I could remember its name. > > Too bad the Rommies were using Marvin’s paranoid brain to run their ship. _Spacecraft 2000 to 2100 AD_? The Romulan ship does bear a faint resemblance to the AAF 212 “Hornet”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-babel-one-spoilers/287095.md?page=4)