# Enterprise Borderland **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 29, 2004, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791 "2004-10-29T03:00:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![cstamets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@cstamets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cstamets)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/41 "2004-10-30T23:02:07Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > His name’s Paul Wight, actually. Big Show’s his WWE stage name. And in case anyone wasn’t sure, he was the Shrek-looking Orion that T’pol kicked. Kinda why they call him Big Show. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/42 "2004-10-30T23:04:22Z")
Don’t forget the prestige angle in having slaves. Doesn’t matter how many machines you have (unless you’re Fajo). It’s the people you have control over. parse THAT, **Viva**! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/43 "2004-10-30T23:07:58Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > Am I the only one who flinched when Archer congratulated T’Pol on her commission? > > Or have we absolutely abandoned canon and nobody told me? Given her continud lack of regulation uniform, I will assume it’s not a StarFleet commission. More like a permanently attatched member of the crew from the Vulcan Consulate. Or, I could be wrong. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/44 "2004-10-30T23:13:58Z")
I liked half this episode quite a bit. Spiner-as-Soong and the Orion slave plot was interesting, unpredictable, and engaging. The crew member freaking out in the cage was an excellent touch. The other half, the Tribe of Marc Singer Lookalikes, bored me to tears. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/45 "2004-10-30T23:20:16Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > Am I the only one who flinched when Archer congratulated T’Pol on her commission? Or have we absolutely abandoned canon and nobody told me? Spock was never stated to be the first Vulcan in Starfleet, only the first to graduate from the Academy. > **[Spock](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Spock)** > > Spock is a fictional character in the Star Trek media franchise. Originally played by actor Leonard Nimoy, Spock first appeared in the original Star Trek series serving aboard the starship USS Enterprise as science officer and first officer, and later as commanding officer of two iterations of the vessel. Spock's mixed human-Vulcan heritage serves as an important plot element in many of the character's appearances. Along with Captain James T. Kirk and Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy, he is one of the... [http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/index.php/Spock#Adolescence](http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/index.php/Spock#Adolescence) [http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3523684&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1](http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3523684&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1) ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/46 "2004-10-30T23:24:22Z")
Who’s Marc Singer? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/47 "2004-10-30T23:55:20Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Who’s Marc Singer? He was THE BEASTMASTER! And he was also in the two “V” miniseries and regular series. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/48 "2004-10-31T01:03:45Z")
Because NCB constructed his sentence properly and the preposition did not cause it to be awkward, he has escaped parsing. This time. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Malodorous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@Malodorous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malodorous)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2004, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/49 "2004-10-31T05:23:20Z")
I just started watching again. I dropped it after the first season but think I’ll start watching again (especially if they really drop that themesong). Can someone catch me up on who Brent Spiner’s character is and how those guys in all the leather are related to Kahn? ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2004, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/50 "2004-10-31T05:29:35Z")
I don’t know how the supermen are related to Khan’s followers but I do know Spiner’s character is some relative of Noonien Soong\*, Data’s creator. \*Not to be confused with Khan Noonien Singh, aka KHAAAAAAAAAAAN! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2004, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/51 "2004-10-31T05:53:33Z")
The Dune boys were embryos left from the Eugenic Wars that Soong augmented even further, or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![Malodorous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@Malodorous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malodorous)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2004, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/52 "2004-10-31T06:06:57Z")
Cool, thanks ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/53 "2004-10-31T20:10:21Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > Archer congratulated T’Pol on her commission? If she is in Star Fleet, why the hell isn’t she in uniform? ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2004, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/54 "2004-10-31T21:58:46Z")
If you have cleavage, you don’t have to wear a uniform. See also: Troi, Deanna. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2004, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/55 "2004-10-31T23:22:02Z")
[Who is Marc Singer?](http://www.publispain.com/super-posters/Actors-MarcSingerBeastmaster.htm) Very astute, Cervaise. I didn’t realize that this was who these guys reminded me of—I just knew that they were very '80s. The episode was okay. Liked Brent Spiner. Look forward to next week. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/56 "2004-11-01T00:12:45Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > If you have cleavage, you don’t have to wear a uniform. > > See also: Troi, Deanna. Oh, yeah?? What about Riker?! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/57 "2004-11-01T00:16:53Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > What about Riker?! I counter with Kahn. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/58 "2004-11-01T00:18:47Z")
Ricardo’s breasts were magnificent! ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/59 "2004-11-01T00:21:43Z")
But they weren’t real. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791/60 "2004-11-01T00:37:00Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > But they weren’t real. The producer on my CD of TWOK says they were. Is real a requirement? Do implants count? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-borderland/271791.md?page=4)