# Enterprise Bounty spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 13, 2003, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077 "2003-05-13T22:50:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/61 "2003-05-15T06:31:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \* > \*\*But you can pack it with more weight for better butting of your opponent. \*\* Hey, now… our cogenitor might like things inserted there but I most definitely do not. That’s an exit only! ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/62 "2003-05-15T06:32:51Z")
So … now the Klingons have tractor beams too, eh? ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/63 "2003-05-15T06:33:07Z")
Oh, I never even _imagined_ that one coming. 😃 Ooh, can’t wait for the virtual fisticuffs when IT returns and sees what we said about IT behind ITS back… ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/64 "2003-05-15T06:35:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \* > \*\*Oh, I never even _imagined_ that one coming. 😃 \*\* You make this too easy. ;j ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/65 "2003-05-15T06:37:35Z")
Okay, how many episodes ago was it that Phlox’s wife was going all Mrs. Robinson on Trip (it was Trip, wasn’t it?), and the doc laughed about how puritanical he was to turn her down? It’s like the producers have decided to have a liberated, female-empowerment angle to things, but they also can’t violate their prime directive, which states that nothing can be allowed to actually happen, ever. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/66 "2003-05-15T06:42:01Z")
Phlox’s dark secret is he can never satisfy a woman, that’s why his wife was all up on the humans and he had to turn down T’Pol ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/67 "2003-05-15T06:42:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Aesiron \* > \*\*You make this too easy. ;j \*\* That’s because it doesn’t matter what I say. It cannot be helped, I tell you! This whole thread is frayed and corrupted, and me along with it! ---
**Author:** ![BraheSilver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@BraheSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BraheSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/68 "2003-05-15T08:18:56Z")
For some reason I had the following thought all while watching this: [T’Pol, in a red wig and leopard skin pants]: Phlawwwwx! I want seeeeex! [Phlox, one hand down his pants] Mmn, noPol. I especially like how the Tellarite figures that the Klingons will never find out he helped Archer. Nope. Never. Not even after finding the trick handcuffs with the secret compartment and the little thingy on the inside of the cell door that happens to fit exactly in said compartment. That piggy’s going to be the guest of honor at a Klingon luau pretty soon, I bet. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/69 "2003-05-15T12:08:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \* > \*\* > > Could somebody explain why Trip left the bridge during a manhunt to bring chow to Phlox and his patient? Couldn’t he have just sent a steward? > > \*\* In case she recovered enough to take command from him, she would have a Nasty Accident. 🙂 I presumed he just wondered what the hell was going on in there. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/70 "2003-05-15T12:47:27Z")
Triple just wanted to see T’Puta’s pointy bits. ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/71 "2003-05-15T13:06:48Z")
DAMN DAMN DAMN! See! You see they completely ignore the TOS tapes! In Journey to Bable the Tellerites are described as Argumentative short stubborn types… here they are a bunch whiney wusses who really don’t want to see anyone hurt. At least they had T’Pol bother to say it wwas personal before blurting out the P word… You’d think she might have tried harder… I mean Spock was ordered to reveal before he said it and he ignored McCoys requests to elaborate. Maybe it was just the nasty bug… wait a minute come to think of it something ain’t right here! In Amok time while Spock was slowly dying as he tried to swim up stream his Betrothed (the super bitch T’Pring) seemed perfectly fine… not even a bead of sweat. Does this affect all Vulcans or just the males I mean Spock went into the Plak to thing (you know eyes rolled in the back of his head can’t communicate and wants to either Kill or Screw NOW!) and she’s just sitting watching as if it didn’t matter that it was time. Is this a changed premise or did I misunderstand this whole up stream thing? ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/72 "2003-05-15T13:42:36Z")
**viva** - I wondered why Trip was carrying dinner trays around too, what with I’d’ve thought he was acting captain and all. I guess Archer was madder that we realized, after that Cogenitor thing. He busted Trip down to Chef’s Right-Hand Man (Guys, don’t even bother to make that dirty. It’s way too easy). So, Bounty. Two almost-plots here, guess I’ll take 'em in turn. I. The Bounty Hunter Thing Well, I like the idea of a bounty hunter episode in principle [sub]Firefly did it better[/sub], and I’d say they made a valiant effort to do something with this one. Though I’m not quite sure WHAT they were doing. Showing what a sought-after guy Archer is? Proving that Tellarites aren’t all bad? Damaging Klingon/Human diplomatic relations? Hellifiknow. But I kind of liked the Tellarite dude, and I was amused by his delivery of lines; one came out especially funny, when he’s droning on about how he’s going to get his ship back, and Archer’s screwing with the engine. He’s droning, droning, droning, and then without the slightest pause, he shouts “WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!” Maybe it wasn’t funny to anyone else, but I liked it. Something about how suddenly he changed gears. I was also pleased with the escape from the prison cell, when Archer’s wrestling with the guard dude, and he thoughtully puts the handcuffs over his own neck, so the Klingon can try to strangle him. Always make things easier for your opponent, that’s my philosophy. II. The Panda Farr Thing This was dirty and disturbing in so very, very many ways. ``` A) Dirty Disturbing Aspect #1 ``` Phlox getting greased up in Decon. I never _ever_ wanted to see that. Ever, ever, do you hear me?! EVER!!! Look, I like the guy. He’s nice, he’s funny, he’s an interesting character. But on my list of people I’d like to see in Decon, he’s somewhere between Oprah and Richard Simmons. Yeah, that’s WAY down there on the list. Captain Janeway is higher than them. So is Tony Blair, for God’s sake. Chef is higher than them, and I don’t even know what he LOOKS like. Please, Bermandbraga, don’t ever do this to me again. I implore you. ``` B) Dirty Disturbing Aspect #2 ``` Now, I don’t mean to imbue this puerile wet dream of a subplot with more socioplotical subtext than it deserves, but what’s with the gender-based double standard here? Look, supose the roles were reversed, and Phlox was getting all overpoweringly horny on T’Pol. Well, for one thing, it would never happen, because nobody wants to be seen as glamourizing sexual assault, and sexually aggressive men are scary. Sexually aggressive women, however, are hot. Aaaand _flush_, there goes gender equality. So, I’m probably over analyzing, but it’s something that I found discomfiting from a social standpoint. I will now get down off this box and put the soap back in it. All in all, this episode could have been worse, 'cause it did have a few humorful moments. If they were desperate to do the horny T’Pol thing, it would have been better for them to have found some way to link the two plots, so the episode as a whole would be a little less schizoid. Maybe that’s asking too much, I don’t know. Love, Kn(hyper-analytical)ckers ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/73 "2003-05-15T13:43:48Z")
I will have to go back and see Amok Time again, but I thought Spock said something like “It is a thing that all Vulcan males must endure.” or “It happens to all Vulcan males.” ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/74 "2003-05-15T14:42:52Z")
Perhaps I didn’t make myself clear in my last posting: (ahem) So **Klingons** in the 22nd Century have tractor beams too, just like the Vulcans do?! Geez! Is humanity the **only** species left that hasn’t acquired tractor beam technology? ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/75 "2003-05-15T14:48:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > \*\*I will have to go back and see Amok Time again, but I thought Spock said something like “It is a thing that all Vulcan males must endure.” or “It happens to all Vulcan males.” \*\* That’s what I though too. ass proof watch this [clip](http://www.startrek.com/library/media_tos.asp?id=18651) though he does not say the line… watch his wife in the shots… does she look over come by desire? Will she die if she doesn’t get Spock or anyone? come to think of it check out this [clip](http://www.startrek.com/library/media_tos.asp?id=18670) and see the original Tellerite and Andorian. I kind of liked the accent of the Andorian… Might have been a good idea to give them all the accent. And as for the tractor beam… yeah it is annoying. If the Klingons have Photon Torpedos and Tractor beam technology, faster ships and powerful sheilds why the hell have they not overrun the Earth by this point. If they can go on a war against Tribbles and not be embarrased I’m sure it would be honourable stomping out an emerging warp civilization. ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/76 "2003-05-15T14:50:57Z")
ass proof? Ass proof? damn I checked twice and still missed that ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/77 "2003-05-15T14:52:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kingpengvin \* > **That’s what I though too. ass proof watch this [clip](http://www.startrek.com/library/media_tos.asp?id=18651) …** Ass proof. heh heh. 😃 Kn(Sorry! Sorry! I’m sorry, don’t hit!)ckers ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/78 "2003-05-15T14:54:08Z")
It would have been funnier if I’d caught that typo before its author did. I’m going to slink away embarrassed, now. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/79 "2003-05-15T14:58:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tracer \* > \*\*cans do?! > > Geez! Is humanity the **only** species left that hasn’t acquired tractor beam technology? \*\* So they get it from seeing the Klingons with it. Malcolm has already made a reference to photons torpedoes and shields. Hell. whatcha want, wait for Westley to invent it? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-bounty-spoilers/175077/80 "2003-05-15T15:10:17Z")
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