# Enterprise-Carpenter Street spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 26, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315 "2003-11-26T03:26:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/141 "2003-12-05T23:21:15Z")
I’ve been to Detroit, and I repress _my_ memories. For all I know, it _is_ a post-Eugenics ruin. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/142 "2003-12-06T01:26:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by av8rmike \* > \*\*Wasn’t “present-day” Earth in the Trek Universe in the post-Eugenics Wars ruin? Or did nobody in Detroit even notice? Did this never get mentioned? \*\* Two theories. 1. Much like Los Angeles (as stated in the Voyager episode where they first meet up with the 29th Century Starfleet), Detroit was left relatively unharmed in the wake of the Eugenics Wars. 2. “The Rise and Fall of Khan Noonien Singh”, a novel by Gary Cox, has the Eugenics Wars taking place behind the scenes, unknown to all but the people involved and maybe a handful of others. I rather like option number two. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/143 "2003-12-06T03:15:17Z")
Also unknown would be the capability of launching the sleeper ship _Botnay Bay_. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/144 "2003-12-06T03:16:59Z")
“On Earth, in 1996, I was a Prince!” -Kahn Noonian Singh ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/145 "2003-12-06T03:19:04Z")
“And in 2003, in CA, I was a perfesser.” –viva * * * Back to Gwyneth Paltry for a second…she’s so thin that she’s barely got room for a baby in there unless it’s a really narrow one. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/146 "2003-12-06T03:45:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > \*\*Also unknown would be the capability of launching the sleeper ship _Botnay Bay_. \*\* I could do that right now. From my spare bedroom/study. Kids these days. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/147 "2003-12-06T03:58:54Z")
My point being, Gentlemen, (and I use the term loosely), that the eugenics war would be kind of difficult to keep quiet. That would be the first Bush Presidency, would it not? Perhaps it was a cover up. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/148 "2003-12-06T04:01:11Z")
Ah, the CLINTON administration, pretending to be the Bush…more of a coverup than I even thought… Kahn was held prisoner in a mobile home in Levy, Arkansas, and the _Botnay Bay_ launched from a race track in Hot Springs. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/149 "2003-12-06T04:07:25Z")
If we can fake moon landings and cover up alien abductions, we can darn sure keep the lid on the EugyWars. Remember the OJ slow speed chase? Huh? Huh? Now you understand. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2003, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/150 "2003-12-07T06:08:13Z")
But you can’t keep this a secret: [http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/sitelets/christmasbook2003/F4O2048.htm](http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/sitelets/christmasbook2003/F4O2048.htm) Expensive Robots, do my bidding! Well…what else to post? Nobody dug up “Anomaly” for the rerun and it’s a cinch no one will revisit “Extinction.” ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2003, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/151 "2003-12-07T13:08:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > \*\*“On Earth, in 1996, I was a Prince!” > -Kahn Noonian Singh \*\* name the prince of Luxenbourg! Name the prince of Swaziland! There are too many princes, no wonder he slipped by unknown to us! ---
**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2003, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/152 "2003-12-07T17:30:03Z")
Somebody want to fill me in on the details of the Eugenics War? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2003, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/153 "2003-12-07T18:17:17Z")
[Complete Trek chronology](http://www.maplenet.net/~trowbridge/timeline.htm) includes books for detailed background info. Scroll to the 1990s ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/154 "2003-12-08T01:35:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > **Name the prince of Swaziland!** [Swazibots ho!](http://home.netcom.com/~rogermw/stories/gaea.html) ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/155 "2003-12-08T01:42:57Z")
Who you callin’ a ho? ---
**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/156 "2003-12-08T02:12:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \* > \*\*[Complete Trek chronology](http://www.maplenet.net/~trowbridge/timeline.htm) > > includes books for detailed background info. Scroll to the 1990s \*\* That just raises further questions! Whos this Picard fellow? ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/157 "2003-12-08T18:53:58Z")
The Singher formerly known as Prince. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/158 "2003-12-08T20:08:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \* > \*\*Who you callin’ a ho? \*\* The Thundercats, of course. (And the Swazibots.) ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/159 "2003-12-08T20:15:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wearia \* > \*\*That just raises further questions! Whos this Picard fellow? \*\* He’s the leader of the X-Men ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315/160 "2003-12-08T20:38:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tracer \* > \*\* > (And the Swazibots.) \*\* Weren’t they in _Dirty Dancing?_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-carpenter-street-spoilers/215315.md?page=9)