# Enterprise Cease Fire spoilers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 12, 2003, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480 "2003-02-12T00:44:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/661 "2003-04-29T13:31:26Z")

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What the Aesiron has said is unimportant, and we don’t hear his words.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/662 "2003-04-29T13:34:06Z")

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We have a new ep tonight, “Congenitor” Did I spell that right? What with Tripp and Meriweather and all.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/663 "2003-04-29T13:51:39Z")

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You missspeltt itt.

It’s _Menage a Tripp_

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/664 "2003-04-29T13:59:53Z")

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Sorry.

Ha! It’s tomorrow night for you, schedule breath!

Wearia and I will know how much it bites long before any of you puny Earthlings!

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/665 "2003-04-29T14:10:12Z")

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Go ahead and start the thread someone!

And I will refuse to post in it untill I actually see the show.

No amount of taunting or cajoling will get me into it before 7:00 - 8:00 pm CST Wodin’sday.

Serious.

Don’t even try.

[crunch]

[munch munch munch]

This bug wasn’t as good as the last one…

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/666 "2003-04-29T16:55:52Z")

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Wodin’d Day.  
You’ve got class, but when Wearia or I post the new thread, you’ll be on it like duck on a June bug.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/667 "2003-04-29T23:29:39Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> \*\*What the Aesiron has said is unimportant, and we don’t hear his words. \*\*

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More sniping = more unresolved sexual tension.

It’s **Pandage a Trip!**  
(Cogenitor)  
Cogenitals?  
Cogentiles?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/668 "2003-04-29T23:41:59Z")

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From the SFTV newsgroup: Enterprise DVDs.

[http://www.trektoday.com/news/280403\_01.shtml](http://www.trektoday.com/news/280403_01.shtml)

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/669 "2003-04-30T03:39:57Z")

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I don’t even want to think about how much money I’m going to blow on buying 31 freakin’ Season DVD Sets _and_ at least 10 movies. :eek:

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/670 "2003-04-30T04:48:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> \*\*There was too a safe! It had Kirk’s last orders (_The Tholian Web_), and a Phaser Cutting Phaser™! \*\*

I just watched my old tape of _The Tholian Web_. And when I say “old,” I mean OLD – I taped it in 1991. And … you are absolutely correct, **NoClueBoy**. Except for the phaser-cutting phaser part. I bow to your superior knowledge of geeky Trek trivia.

Of course, I then had to discern what combination Spock was entering on that safe. He held his hand over the 3rd, 4th, and 5th buttons in such a way that it wasn’t possible to see which buttons he was pressing in which order. Three lights blinked on over the buttons in the following sequence:

5th button, then 3rd button, then 4th button.

Were that all there was to it, I’d conclude that these lights represented the safe’s combination (despite the fact that the combination to Kirk’s safe in “This Side of Paradise” was 5th-2nd-3rd-1st – of course, Kirk could have always changed the combination between episodes). But that’s **not** all there was to it. No no no no. Because on the sound track accompanying Spock’s **three** button presses in “The Tholian Web,” we hear **four** beep tones, and we also hear **four** clicking sounds of the buttons themselves being pressed!

Clearly, the 3 blinking lights were not indicative of the complete combination, as 4 buttons were pressed.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/671 "2003-05-01T06:25:58Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by tracer \*  
> \*\*I just watched my old tape of _The Tholian Web_. And when I say “old,” I mean OLD – I taped it in 1991. And … you are absolutely correct, **NoClueBoy**. Except for the phaser-cutting phaser part. I bow to your superior knowledge of geeky Trek trivia.
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> Of course, I then had to discern what combination Spock was entering on that safe. He held his hand over the 3rd, 4th, and 5th buttons in such a way that it wasn’t possible to see which buttons he was pressing in which order. Three lights blinked on over the buttons in the following sequence:
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> 5th button, then 3rd button, then 4th button.
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> Were that all there was to it, I’d conclude that these lights represented the safe’s combination (despite the fact that the combination to Kirk’s safe in “This Side of Paradise” was 5th-2nd-3rd-1st – of course, Kirk could have always changed the combination between episodes). But that’s **not** all there was to it. No no no no. Because on the sound track accompanying Spock’s **three** button presses in “The Tholian Web,” we hear **four** beep tones, and we also hear **four** clicking sounds of the buttons themselves being pressed!
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> Clearly, the 3 blinking lights were not indicative of the complete combination, as 4 buttons were pressed. \*\*

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You are **such** a geek.

That was a compliment.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/672 "2003-05-01T07:11:53Z")

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Nah, a **true** geek would have scoured the 'net for interviews with Nimoy or the scriptwriter for that episode\* and found a real, definitive answer to what that combination was supposed to be.

\*) A true geek would also know **who** the scriptwriter was for that episode without having to look it up. Which I don’t.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/673 "2003-05-01T07:16:40Z")

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Dweeb!

That _wasn’t_ a compliment. 😉

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/674 "2003-05-01T15:26:20Z")

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I see you’ve never had a really **good** dweeb, then, Aesiron. Tsk tsk, ya don’t know what you’re missing.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/675 "2003-05-01T23:06:18Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by tracer \*  
> \*\* **good** dweeb \*\*

The terms, Sir, are mutually exclusive.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/676 "2003-05-02T03:17:38Z")

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The combination was supposed to be Kirk’s birthday (month and day only) as counted in Iowa (not Federation StarDates).

I actually was there on that SNL set and asked him later at the wrap party.

:dubious:  
I lied! That never happened!

You’re missing something… Look again.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/677 "2003-05-02T05:17:04Z")

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Ah, but **NoClueBoy** , the question asked of Shatner during that famous SNL sketch dealt with the combination to his safe during “This Side of Paradise,” **not** “The Tholian Web”!

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/678 "2003-05-02T05:21:31Z")

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What’s scary is that I’m actually inclined to believe **tracer**.

I picture him in my mind’s eye as being a wild-eyed dude in a study full of VHS cassettes of all worthwhile sci-fi, just waiting for an excuse to pop one of them in the VCR to prove someone wrong.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/679 "2003-05-02T05:43:22Z")

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You know, I have VHS tapes of every episode of _The Transformers_ and _G.I. Joe_\*, which I made off the air in the 1980s. Some of them I even stayed in front of the TV while I was taping so that I could hit “pause” during the commercials and not record them.

And although I’ve taped every episode of _Enterprise_, my first couple of tapes are out on loan to a poor backwaters family who doesn’t receive UPN. (And wouldn’t you know it, the two episodes I needed to review to confirm whether or not any pre-NX-01 human-built ships could exceed warp 2.2 were **both** on those tapes that are out on loan! Hmph!)  
\*) Not including any _G.I. Joe_ episodes made since Marvel Animation sold off the production rights to DIC, of course.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/680 "2003-05-02T05:45:34Z")

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And if it makes you feel any better, I have never in my life seen a single episode of _Farscape._

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