# Enterprise Cease Fire spoilers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 12, 2003, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480 "2003-02-12T00:44:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2003, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/61 "2003-02-13T21:13:01Z")

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You disagree with Mrs. Plant.  
You watch your ass.

^:)^

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**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2003, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/62 "2003-02-13T21:17:36Z")

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Ooh, ooh, next week we get CORPSES! Super exciting - thanks for the heads up, **NCB**

Well, yeah, **Cervaise** , it wasn’t exactly the Magical Wonder Ride O’ Fun, and maybe we do overreact when we see something that doesn’t outright make us all vomit (in unison), but what the hell, that’s gotta be worth something. Any time I can say “at least they didn’t…” that’s pretty good, because there have been lotsa episodes of late when I couldn’t even say that much.

Let’s hope the coolness and un-patheticness is on the rise. Seems unlikely, but, hell, hope springs eternal.

Kisses,  
Kn(too lazy to type the rest of my name)

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**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2003, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/63 "2003-02-13T21:19:47Z")

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I mean, let’s hope the coolness and un-patheticness ARE on the rise. Dagnabbit.

Sorry 'bout that.

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2003, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/64 "2003-02-13T21:20:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cervaise \*  
> I think it’s sad that we’re judging this episode as “good” solely because it doesn’t suck camel jizz like most everything else this past season.

I’m sure there are many people who agree with you, and that’s fine, but FYI, you do not speak for everyone here. I liked it, and I’ve missed most of the episodes this season.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2003, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/65 "2003-02-13T21:25:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \*  
> \*\*The Suliban pod? Tripp was interested in “letting them do their work” than rescuing the Captain. \*\*

It would also be bad if some renegade Andorian managed to get their blue hands on it.

And that conference call? Trip didn’t originate it, the Andorians and Vulcans hailed Enterprise simulatanously. What was Trip supposed to to, put one of 'em on hold?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2003, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/66 "2003-02-13T21:43:00Z")

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Gee, Tripp is also a diplomat (although I thought he would subscribe to the Scotty school of “The best diplomat is a fully charged phaser bank”)

“Y’all Vulcans are gonna hafta wait while I talk to the Andorians, who are more important” or vice versa.

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**Author:** ![Will\_Repair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a698b9/32.png) [@Will\_Repair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Will_Repair)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2003, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/67 "2003-02-13T22:06:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> **Ha ha ha… Did you see it when Archer told Blue Tits to drop her weapon, her antennae went straight up?!? Like 'hands up!" That really got me.**

But they should of been laid back against the head during the fight or argument.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2003, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/68 "2003-02-13T22:12:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by AcidKid \*  
> \*\*But they should of been laid back against the head during the fight or argument. \*\*

I thought they did. Like a cat’s ears.

She’s all blue. Why pick on her breasts? You’re gonna get Worf angry.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/69 "2003-02-13T22:29:02Z")

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I liked Ttrriipp’'ss “I think we should see what the Cap’n has to say before I sign our death warrant and invalidate all our contracts by getting shot at by four or more hostile ships.”

That was some fortuitous timing! “Scotty, NOW would be good time!”

“Duh huh! My unner wayre is flame retarted. Doan mean nut’n.”

I think the Vulcan Ambassador’s aide was named T’Prick.

on _Enterprise_ scale, this is a B. Maybe B-.

Compared to some of my faves from all series, C.

(Last week was an incomplete. Did not come even close to passing. _Shades of Grey_ was better.)

But… It wasn’t a failure. It shows that the franchise can still work, if done well.

Be more weller!

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2003, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/70 "2003-02-13T23:12:30Z")

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**ivylass** : No, Combs never played a Suliban. But he’s played a lot of aliens, so it’s not out of the realm of possibilities.

**carnivorousvegetation** : I prefer to believe that anything named Archer was actually named for Henry Archer, instead of his disappointing son. 😉

Now, somebody get me some Tellarites and I’ll settle down. For a while.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2003, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/71 "2003-02-14T00:12:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jeff Olsen \*  
> \*\*And that conference call? Trip didn’t originate it, the Andorians and Vulcans hailed Enterprise simulatanously. What was Trip supposed to to, put one of 'em on hold? \*\*

Oh, right, because a ship as technologically advanced as _Enterprise_ can handle only one incoming call at a time.

Seriously, all I’m asking for is an acknowledgement of what’s actually going on, narratively and dramatically: “Hey! What’s _he_ doing on the screen!” - “Get out of here, ya pointy-earned bastard!” - “Stand down, lapis lazuli insect, or be vaporized!” - before Trip sez, “Hey, now, settle down, kids.”

It just rubbed me wrong, like they skipped a step in the storytelling, which happens all too frequently with the show. It tells me the writers aren’t paying attention, which is extremely annoying.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2003, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/72 "2003-02-14T00:14:36Z")

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I’m sure the Andorians were like “Hey, those pointy ears are hailing the pinkskins, we better do so also!” so they weren’t surprised (and had time to make up that “Don’t want you to get hurt by the debris of the Vulcan ships” joke)

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**Author:** ![Santos\_L\_Halper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/santos_l_halper/32/1_2.png) [@Santos\_L\_Halper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santos_L_Halper)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2003, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/73 "2003-02-14T01:53:40Z")

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**Achernar** , Combs also played the Ferengi **Brunt** on DS9. In at least one episode he appeared as both Brunt and Weyune (although not in the same scene that I can recall).

_Cease Fire_ was the best episode so far this season (although there wasn’t much for it to compete against). Last season was a lot better, but it seemed that they sort of lost direction for a while. Hopefully this episode is indication they’re finding a solid feel for the show and the characters.

Eric

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2003, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/74 "2003-02-14T01:59:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
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> Now, somebody get me some Tellarites and I’ll settle down. For a while. \*\*

Anyone smell bacon?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2003, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/75 "2003-02-14T02:02:46Z")

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Yeah, the Vulcan and Andorian screaming at each other with Tripp asking for decorum would’ve been cool, but I will accept Tars explanation. Heck, if I got to write it there would be more red shirts on less clevage.

Combs said in an interview that Brunt and Weyoun were did not share any scenes in the mentioned episode of DS9.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2003, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/76 "2003-02-14T02:15:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> \*\*Anyone smell bacon? \*\*

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That’s some hairy bacon!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2003, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/77 "2003-02-14T02:21:50Z")

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were did not?

My photons are overmodulating my quark beam oscillator again.  
Dammit, I _hate_ it when they over oscillate!

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2003, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/78 "2003-02-14T02:22:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Santos L Halper \*  
> **Achernar** , Combs also played the Ferengi **Brunt** on DS9. In at least one episode he appeared as both Brunt and Weyune (although not in the same scene that I can recall).

Ah yes, you are correct, as verified by [startrek.com](http://startrek.com). The Internet Movie Database lists Brunt under Combs’s filmography, but not under his TV guest appearances, which is why I missed it. So that brings his character total to a whopping six!

After a good bit of searching, I managed to find the episode where he played both Weyoun and Brunt - “The Dogs of War”. I _also_ managed to find _another_ episode where he played two characters - “Far Beyond the Stars”. If you recall in this episode, many people had two roles, so I don’t really know if this counts as a seventh role.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2003, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/79 "2003-02-14T02:29:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \*  
> \*\*were did not?
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> My photons are overmodulating my quark beam oscillator again.  
> Dammit, I _hate_ it when they over oscillate! \*\*

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Well, it must be spreading through the galaxy, because I didn’t even notice the error till you pointed it out! :eek:  
Error…Error…Must sterilize…steriliiiiize…[Nomad]\

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2003, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/80 "2003-02-14T02:43:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
> \*\*-------------------------------------------------------------------------  
> Well, it must be spreading through the galaxy, because I didn’t even notice the error till you pointed it out! :eek:  
> Error…Error…Must sterilize…steriliiiiize…[Nomad]\ \*\*

You? NOT notice a mistake?

Your programming is in error! You must sterilize!

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