# Enterprise Cease Fire spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 12, 2003, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480 "2003-02-12T00:44:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1061 "2004-09-08T04:00:16Z")
Ships! They’re called ships! Not boats. _Ships_. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1062 "2004-09-08T04:01:18Z")
My ship don’t stink. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1063 "2004-09-08T04:05:15Z")
My cat’s does. 'specially the poop deck. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1064 "2004-09-09T00:25:23Z")
Ships are carriers, destroyers, starships, tall ships and such. Boats are the smaller ones, generally. I theenk so. Tugboats. If you serve on a submarine, it’s called being “in the boats,” for some reason. Go eat a sub. Don’t stop my grog. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1065 "2004-09-09T00:45:30Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > Boats are the smaller ones, generally. I thought that ovar 100’ was a ship and under a boat; subs were called boats because they used to be under 100’ Nautical folks on the board say that ain’t so. A sloop was a sloop when a leutenant commanded it, and a ship when commanded by a captain. Or was that a brig? Dammit. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1066 "2004-09-09T00:50:03Z")
her name was Lola she was a show girl ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1067 "2004-09-09T00:54:40Z")
I don’t know of any specific length that a boat has to be before it’s a ship, only that a ship is generally big and a boat is generall small. And a sloop, so far as I know, is a boat with one mast, not a ship commanded by a lower level officer. I don’t grok grog. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1068 "2004-09-09T00:56:58Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > her name was Lola OK, FTH does this have to do with the question? Or the OP? Or Trek? You really need to talk to your couselor, rabbi, or cat. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1069 "2004-09-09T01:02:09Z")
I thought we were doing hits of the 70s. My rabbi is one cool cat. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1070 "2004-09-09T01:05:10Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > And a sloop, so far as I know, is a boat with one mast, not a ship commanded by a lower level officer. Ha! “Sloop- Originally, a term used generally for any realatively small ship-of-war that did not fit into other categories; around 1760 (what star date is that?) heavier three-masted sloops carrying 14 or 16 guns were used in the Royal Navy. By the early 19th century, there were two distinctive classes of SQUARE RIGGED sloops, the three masted SHIP sloop and the two masted BRIG sloop.” -King, Dean _A Sea of Words_ Maybe it’s only on Tuesdays? There is something in Patrick OBrian about calling a smaller craft something else if a Captain was in command. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1071 "2004-09-09T01:27:29Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > I don’t know of any specific length that a boat has to be before it’s a ship, only that a ship is generally big and a boat is generall small. According to my buddy who was in the Navy for 6 years, the distinction between a boat and a ship is as follows: If it can carry smaller boats on board, it’s a ship. If not, it’s a boat. So, technically, I guess that would mean that a little canoe would become a ship if you carried an inflatable rubber dinghy on board it. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1072 "2004-09-09T01:32:05Z")
> [@tracer](#): > > So, technically, I guess that would mean that a little canoe would become a ship if you carried a … dinghy on board it. So, any aquatic vessel that \*\*cplant \*\*is on is a ship? ---
**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1073 "2004-09-09T07:24:06Z")
This is the worst trip I’ve ever been on. Gotta get myself a better brand of drugs. “…That started from a tropic port Aboard this tiny boat…” Naw, it just doesn’t have the same ring to it. Is it just me, or has the ship really hit the fan? ---
**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1074 "2004-09-09T07:30:34Z")
Hey, it’s the ninth! I believe that means it’s **Viva** ’s birthday. Happy Birthday Viva! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1075 "2004-09-09T12:10:48Z")
> [@Linus Van Pelt](#): > > “…That started from a tropic port > Aboard this tiny boat…” But Gilligan had the Coast Gaurd on speed dial… ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1076 "2004-09-09T14:18:35Z")
> [@Linus Van Pelt](#): > > Hey, it’s the ninth! > > I believe that means it’s **Viva** ’s birthday. > > Happy Birthday Viva! :smack: In America, ship is also a verb. Oddly, though, we can ship things in a truck. In the UK, truck is often a verb. They truck things in a lorry. In the USA, the ground floor of a building is called the first floor. In the UK, the second story is called the first floor, but that’s another story. In communist space vacuum, scream listens for you. Felicitations Viva! ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1077 "2004-09-09T14:36:16Z")
How do you say “Happy Birthday, Viva!” in Klingon? (Does Klingon even **have** a word for “happy”?) ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1078 "2004-09-09T14:44:17Z")
Well, iirc, Worf’s favorite saying on DS9 was, “I’m so happy, I could crap my pants.” :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1079 "2004-09-09T15:28:42Z")
Cultural note: Any variation of “be happy” is as deadly an insult in Klingon as “Have a nice day.” The clan feud between the House of Glock and the House of Maude was caused by the wife of Don’Kare Maude saying to Nin’Mil Glock “Have a nice day!” Nin’Mil declared just before he struck Don’Kare, “I cannot kill a woman, but your sons for seven generations will suffice!” The feud was ended by Imperial order seventy-five years later by executing all the surviving members of both families. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cease-fire-spoilers/154480/1080 "2004-09-09T17:00:10Z")
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