# Enterprise: Cogenitor (SPOILERS)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 29, 2003, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022 "2003-04-29T22:41:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/1 "2003-04-29T22:41:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
> \*\*So who’s gonna start the next thread or two for “Cogenitor” (AKA “_Pandage a trois_”)?
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> \*Originally posted by Aesiron \*  
> **One of us could but cplant would pitch a hissy like he did last week when Archernar took his toy away from him and I, for one, don’t want to have to comfort him. Again.**

Neener neener. 😛

Synopsis from [startrek.com](http://startrek.com):

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> While studying a star in the early stages of going supernova, Enterprise encounters a race called the Vissians. The two crews get along famously, until Trip Tucker gets a little too curious about a member of the species’ third gender — a nameless individual called a “cogenitor.”

So Trip’s ADD puts the ship in danger again? Color me surprised.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/2 "2003-04-29T23:17:10Z")

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> a nameless individual called a “cogenitor.”

i’ll wait until after this episode airs before i go all Microbiology Degree on the episode’s science’s behind, and give it the shadow of the doubt they pull it off accurately for now.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/3 "2003-04-29T23:19:50Z")

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oh, and comedic Airplane! responce= Cervaise  
(quote me if you don’t get it)

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/4 "2003-04-29T23:33:47Z")

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Oh, no, I got it, you [strange](http://www.chrisis.org/chr_monsters/tars.html)green[warrior](http://www.chrisis.org/chr_monsters/tars.html). And don’t call me Shirley.

Now you’ve got me curious about the microbiology. I googled, but I couldn’t find anything. Apparently it’s a legal term, too. Hmmm.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/5 "2003-04-30T05:27:41Z")

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I like this thread better!

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/6 "2003-04-30T06:43:31Z")

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Two threads again? Whoo!

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/7 "2003-04-30T06:56:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \*  
> i’ll wait until after this episode airs before i go all Microbiology Degree on the episode’s science’s behind, and give it the shadow of the doubt they pull it off accurately for now.

[We may already have it covered.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=180007)

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**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/8 "2003-04-30T13:03:22Z")

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Ooh, can I open up an evo-devo can o’ nitpicking whoop-ass on this episode? I’d enjoy that. But I have to see it first. Who, knows, maybe they’ll get it all right… Maybe the screenplay was written by Stephen J. Gould from beyond the grave. That would be enlightening AND spooky.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/9 "2003-04-30T13:46:09Z")

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There’s an error about “undiscovered” elements; we know what all the blank spaces on the Periodic Table are.  
Watch the dang thing.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/10 "2003-04-30T13:48:16Z")

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“Written By: Rick Berman & Brannon Braga”  
[http://www.startrek.com/news/nextonent.asp](http://www.startrek.com/news/nextonent.asp)  
No way. No way in Hell.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/11 "2003-04-30T17:25:31Z")

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> Written By: Rick Berman & Brannon Braga

great. expect dialog like “We have three sexes because our DNA has three basepairs and is made of turtlewaxium”

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/12 "2003-04-30T17:47:22Z")

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As I said, there is a reallly stupid Periodic Table reference, but it’s a great story. Keep your shirt on for another 6 hourrs, 10 minutes.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/13 "2003-04-30T20:03:57Z")

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Yeah, **Tars**. Just keep it on already.

Hey, hey! We didn’t tell _you_ to keep your shirt on, **Kn\*ckers**! You either, **viva**!

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/14 "2003-04-30T22:17:33Z")

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[Porthos!](http://www.startrekfanclub.com/productDetails.aspx?itemID=4609&CategoryID=91&BLink=True&Page=0&STo=4609)

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/15 "2003-05-01T00:37:04Z")

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Better yet, [your very own T’Boobs](http://www.startrekfanclub.com/productDetails.aspx?itemID=1897&CategoryID=62&BLink=True&Page=0&STo=1897)!

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> Deluxe 7" action figure has 14 points of articulation and was sculpted using body scans of Jolene Blalock.

Yeah, I’ll _bet_ it was. 😉

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/16 "2003-05-01T00:42:16Z")

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Well, wouldn’t you know it, [Travis didn’t get a body scan](http://www.startrekfanclub.com/productDetails.aspx?itemID=1383&CategoryID=62&BLink=True&Page=2&STo=1383).

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**Author:** ![drewbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drewbert/32/15890_2.png) [@drewbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewbert)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/17 "2003-05-01T01:00:23Z")

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Too early for the thread on next week’s episode to appear, so I’ll comment on the trailer here:

I am Phlox of Borg. You will maintain a positive attitude. Resist, and you will be assimilated.

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**Author:** ![Sycorax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@Sycorax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sycorax)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/18 "2003-05-01T01:20:42Z")

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Good one - I liked it. Nice to see Malcolm get laid (I’ve always like Malcolm). For the first 45 minutes I just knew Archer was going to end up making another self-righteous speech in support of Trip  
and that the aliens would see the light and start treating the cogenitors the way Trip thought they should. I even liked T’Pol in this one – being all stern and captain-like with Trip. The ending was totally unexpected and I was happy with it – damn! Archer makes the right decision, and makes the right speech to Trip and makes him feel like sh\*t, as well he should.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/19 "2003-05-01T01:28:37Z")

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I’m in the other thread.

Just popped in to say that THIS was awesome.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/20 "2003-05-01T02:29:10Z")

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As I said in the other thread, it would have been interesting to have a Black person play the Cogenitor.

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022.md?page=2)
