# Enterprise: Cogenitor (SPOILERS)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 29, 2003, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022 "2003-04-29T22:41:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/101 "2003-05-04T02:17:00Z")

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I just saw this episode. Very good, but I have nothing new to add. So, carry on. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/102 "2003-05-04T02:30:08Z")

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Ditto. ;j

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/103 "2003-05-04T02:51:16Z")

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Thank you.  
Thank you very much.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/104 "2003-05-04T02:53:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Aesiron \*  
> \*\*Ditto. ;j \*\*

That means, “I love you.”  
According to _Ghost_

;j

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/105 "2003-05-04T16:39:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
> \*\*Guess what I’ve been eating?
> 
> It’s–I mean, they’re–pretty darn good. \*\*

Wait a minute – this place is called “Alien Fresh Jerky,” yet they don’t have any jerky made out of alien flesh? That sounds like false advertising to me!

(I also notice in their picture that they sell “100% honey.” Until that moment, I was not aware that honey was sold in lower concentrations.)

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/106 "2003-05-04T17:09:53Z")

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Perhaps the misunderstanding arises from badly translated Alpha Centaurian.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/107 "2003-05-04T20:45:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by tracer \*  
> \*\*Wait a minute – this place is called “Alien Fresh Jerky,” yet they don’t have any jerky made out of alien flesh? That sounds like false advertising to me!
> 
> SNIP \*\*

I say we sue the bastards and recover emotional damages in the form of real dead juicy aliens!

Oh, and, uh, I haven’t gotten to see “Cogenitor” yet. Six hours to go, and I will find something to contribute even if I have to invent it. (As usual.)

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/108 "2003-05-04T20:49:14Z")

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I saw it last night but didn’t pay much attention to it since I had just seen X2 an hour beforehand and was still in post-euphoric bliss.

Mmmm… Famke Janssen. Kelly Hu… mmmm

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/109 "2003-05-04T21:19:47Z")

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Okay, to mention one thing others have’nt : I like how they made the Vassians or whatever a race of epicures. I love when they introduce a race and instead of just being Bumpy Headed Humanoid Race #84 843, they give them some sort of hook in addition to the conflict in the episode.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/110 "2003-05-04T21:20:52Z")

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And that was a typo, **viva**. I know it’s spelled haven’t.

Shut up. 😛

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/111 "2003-05-04T23:30:25Z")

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Well, they’re **smell** -epicures, at any rate.

I’m surprised that of the 8 cheeses Malcom brought out for them to try, he didn’t use Limburger.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/112 "2003-05-05T02:11:27Z")

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He got laid. I don’t think we should criticize his taste in cheese.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/113 "2003-05-05T02:35:28Z")

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Another thing: why is it that the cogenitor is the repressed sex? They should have mixed it up a bit and made the society ruled by their women and cogenitors with the men being the mindless drones.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/114 "2003-05-05T03:00:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Aesiron \*  
> \*\* why is it that the cogenitor is the repressed sex? \*\*

'Cause if it were a gender we knew anything about, ya’ll would have agreed with me and Trip(p).

🙂

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/115 "2003-05-05T03:10:31Z")

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Agree with you? It’d take more than the repression of a third of an alien’s society to make me _that_ daft.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/116 "2003-05-05T03:24:38Z")

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You have draft?

Coors?

Bud?

Shiner?

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/117 "2003-05-05T04:36:33Z")

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## Okay, she’s back, and she only has a few nitpickity things to say. She will even disregard **Aesiron’s** error since he self-corrected.

\*I’m sure the chairs on Captain G’Kar’s stratopod came from Office Depot. I should know. I’ve assembled several of them.

\*My Gawd, does every guest alien race have to wear shades of gray?

\*When Vissian chick tells Reed she’s anxious to see his array, she should have said “eager.” Anxious means filled with anxiety. Eager means…well, eager. A very common error.

\*Archer got the movie line quote wrong from _Casablanca_–but then, a lot of people get that line wrong, so I might be willing to let it go. Just a little annoying.

## \*When Trip tells Charles/It that “the coast is clear,” how does she understand that Earth idiom? Shouldn’t she ask, “What coast? We’re nowhere near the sea.”

Otherwise:

Excellent ep! Holy sheet, I mean, dayamn! The pain of the last ten minutes was actually palpable. Kudos. Now if they’d just sustain that, or take a risk and try to top it.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/118 "2003-05-05T04:42:21Z")

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You top it, tilly!

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/119 "2003-05-05T04:55:17Z")

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😃 Go read the other Cogenitals thread, NCB. I just wrote about you.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor-spoilers/172022/120 "2003-05-05T05:04:51Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
> \ ***When Trip tells Charles/It that “the coast is clear,” how does she understand that Earth idiom? Shouldn’t she ask, "What coast? We’re nowhere near the sea."**

TRIP: “The coast is clear!”  
COGENITOR: “What coast? We’re nowhere near the sea.”  
TRIP: “Uh, that’s not what I meant, let me try a different tack.”  
COGENITOR: “We’re not on a sailing vessel, either.”  
TRIP: “No, no! I mean – look, just tag along behind me, okay?”  
COGENITOR: “Okay. Tag! You’re it!” \<runs away\>

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