# Enterprise-Cogenitor **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 30, 2003, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055 "2003-04-30T02:09:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Skillet38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Skillet38](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skillet38)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/81 "2003-05-02T13:31:11Z")
yup, it takes a big SUV to drive your slaves to market ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/82 "2003-05-02T13:37:38Z")
Sigh. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/83 "2003-05-02T13:41:19Z")
And chocolate. Thatā€™s lots of sought after. Hey, **zoogirl** - Along the lines of your idea, it would be pretty neat if there was a HUGE EVIL CONSPIRACY, and, as you suggest, the congenitors died after insemination, but the aliens didnā€™t want to admit that to the humans (say, they picked up on the fact that humans wouldnā€™t like the idea, and maybe they needed something from the humans, like trilutherium alloy, or whatever, so they wanted to not make a _faux pas_), so, to make things look better, they LIED about the cogenitors being 3% of the population, and getting passed aroud, when in REALITY, single-use cogenitors were farmed on huge COGENITOR FARMS! Oh, no! But Trip learns the truth, and no one believes him because the alien guys are so friendly and all, and Malcolm gets laid, and Archer gets to drive the solarpod thingy, and all this time, Tripā€™s all freaked out about the disposable congenitors and the farms and stuff. Then Wesley dies. That would be cool. Well, I thought it was going to be along the lines of your idea, **zoogirl** , but I kind of got carried away. Sorry about that. Yours was better. ---
**Author:** ![Skillet38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Skillet38](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skillet38)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/84 "2003-05-02T13:43:20Z")
If I can put one sighing smile on one carnivorous plantā€™s face, then my work here is done. and I made my 100th post ā€“without getting into the subject of the objectification of the cogenitor, which is the path I think a certain fly trap was trying to lead me down. yea me ! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/85 "2003-05-02T13:56:40Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Kn_ckers \* > \*\* > Then Wesley dies. > \*\* I like that part. One wonders if there will be continuity with thisā€¦difference of opinionā€¦between Archer and TripĀ§. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/86 "2003-05-02T16:08:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Skillet38 \* > **btw, Tripppp robbed not just one couple, but the ones ā€œitā€ would have serviced after done with them. As the couple stated, "Do you know how long weā€™ve had to wait for a cogenitor?"** I interpreted this to mean that Cogenitors were rare **onboard starships,** but might be relatively common on Vissia. After all, if youā€™re going to be in deep space for several months, and thereā€™s only one couple on board your ship that needs Cogenitation services, the government is going to be reluctant to allocate a Cogenitor to you. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/87 "2003-05-02T16:38:45Z")
Well, they did say cogenitors were only 3% of the population. What their specific involvement is in the reproductive process, well, thatā€™s vague. If they have to be around for a few weeks so they can internalize the hormones of the male and the female and produce an appropriate enzyme, thatā€™s one thing; itā€™s another thing if theyā€™re shuttled from couple to couple and are needed for only an hour for conception to take place. We can hypothesize, but I donā€™t think thereā€™s enough evidence in the episode to come to a solid explanation. ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/88 "2003-05-02T18:39:01Z")
Yeah, that bummed me out - I would have liked more details of the Vissian reproductive system. No, you punks, not because Iā€™m a perv. Iā€™m just _curious_ is all. My perviness is totally seperate and disctinct from my scientific curiosity. And I wanted to make fun of them for screwing up with their biology. Only I canā€™t, because they never TOLD us anything. I feel so cheated. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/89 "2003-05-02T18:42:45Z")
How come there wasnā€™t a feather boa wearing pimp pushing the cogenitor out to Enterpriseā€™s crew? Then weā€™d get to see a pimp fight as alien pimps start smacking around Trip 'till he goes all Feral Trip on them. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/90 "2003-05-02T19:39:28Z")
You didnā€™t take your pills, did you Tars? ---
**Author:** ![Skillet38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Skillet38](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skillet38)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/91 "2003-05-02T19:42:29Z")
it wouldā€™ve been interesting if the cogenitors had been sex-obsessed promiscuous brainless beings (insert favorite offensive joke here) and Trip didnā€™t find out until heā€™s alone to try to ā€˜educateā€™ one and He gets the education hehe. I know this thread is going downhill fast, but hey, itā€™s a fun ride straight to the gutter ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/92 "2003-05-02T20:36:16Z")
I have never, ever seen a feather boa that was wearing a pimp. (In fact, all feather boas I have ever seen were completely naked.) ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/93 "2003-05-02T20:44:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > \*\*You didnā€™t take your pills, did you Tars? \*\* The pills told me not to eat them, they didnā€™t like the darkā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/94 "2003-05-03T02:09:15Z")
Red pill? Or blue pill? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/95 "2003-05-03T02:12:05Z")
_X Men United_ is awesome! A little weak on certain plot points, and Rogue still hasnā€™t killed anyone, but they added a great twist. Oooh, and LOTS of killing! šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/96 "2003-05-03T02:18:14Z")
You guys hate me with Opera, right? I have to cut and paste to notebook to see the spoilers. All forā€¦no, I canā€™t tell the spoiler. My little sister did things like. Untill the accident. Mother doesnā€™t let me talk about Sister anymore, so I musnā€™t. Youā€™ve ruined everything! ---
**Author:** ![raisinbread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@raisinbread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raisinbread)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/97 "2003-05-03T03:03:20Z")
The best part of the show was watching Archerā€™s testicles finally drop and give Tripp what fer. Too bad it took a death to get him to that point rather than being a hardass military type. Archerā€™s a captain, not the crewā€™s best friend. Iā€™m certain heā€™ll turn back into Mister Softy by next episode and nobody will remember anything. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/98 "2003-05-03T05:01:45Z")
**ā€™plant** , have you been messing with River? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/99 "2003-05-03T12:57:03Z")
I never date women who shoot with their eyes closed. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055/100 "2003-05-04T20:52:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tarragon918 \* > \*\*SNIP > > As to Trippā€™s decision, I can understand why he did what he did. However, there was a huge repercussion, one that I donā€™t think he had anticipated and for which he was ultimately responsible. And that was what really made this episode so good: there was no reset button; the repercussion will be dealt with directly and Tripp will have to face his part in it. > > SNIP \*\* But Archer and Trip will have make-up sex and then everything will be okey-dokey again. Hi, **tarragon** ā€“I see you picked up **'plantā€™s** spelling quirk. šŸ˜‰ Okay, I havenā€™t seen the show yet. Tonight for sure, with a back up tape in the other VCR. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-cogenitor/172055.md?page=6)