# Enterprise Dead Stop Spoliers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 10, 2002, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620 "2002-10-10T02:07:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kilt-wearin\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kilt-wearin\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilt-wearin_man)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/21 "2002-10-10T17:15:20Z")
Quick mention: The _Star Trek_ novels are not canon. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/22 "2002-10-10T17:28:54Z")
> [@](#): > > _originally posted by astro_ > The Vulcan’s rack and the FX are the only thing that makes it worth watching. Agreed, but speaking of the Vulcan… was it just me or was the placement of her weapons belt around her waist sexier than ever. I hardly saw her rack, I was too busy drooling over her hips ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/23 "2002-10-10T17:32:37Z")
Apparently, neither is the old series or select parts of everything else. I’m beginning to think we should treat each series like Arthur C Clarke said to treat the 2001 books: Each is an independent story not necessarily related to each other in any way. ---
**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/24 "2002-10-10T18:06:17Z")
Might I just point out that I liked this episode because they actually mentioned the Tellarites?! 😃 Unfortunately, we did not -see- the Tellarites, and it was they who sent Enterprise to the repair station. LOL Got a gander at Travis’ nekkie chest, though. 🙂 And the previews for next week… woo hoo!!! I may have to go into my bedroom and close my door to watch it. 😉 I did see a Klingon, couldn’t make out what any of the others were, but will re-watch on Saturday night. While I don’t think this station has anything to do with the Borg, it’s certainly a strange place, and I’m glad that they did not take one of their replicators. LOL ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/25 "2002-10-10T18:08:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > \*\* > Part of the car wash from hell looked kinda like Nomad, though. > > \*\* You mean the Car Wash was TAN RU?!?!?!:eek: Of course no wonder Nomad was so interested in sterilizing things!!!:smack: But where are the soil samples?😕 ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/26 "2002-10-10T18:40:11Z")
> [@](#): > > But where are the soil samples? Probably between the Klingon’s toes… ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/27 "2002-10-10T18:55:07Z")
Tars! Glad you’re OK. I was afraid you busted some big artery in your neck thinking about Hoshi and red jello. That can be hell to get out of the carpet. ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/28 "2002-10-10T19:16:22Z")
Which can be difficult to get out? Hoshi? Red Jello? \*\* Tars \*\* blood? On second thought, don’t answer that. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/29 "2002-10-10T19:27:41Z")
Salmon, catfish. They’re all fiiiiiiiisssssshhh to me. **Jonathan Chance** , there’s an old saying: you can’t please all of the people all of the time. In Star Trek, they need to revise that a bit. You can’t please almost any of the Trekkers almost any of the time. Think about it for a second. What are some options? Take a step by step approach like they did? Most Trekkers would yell that they’re dumbing the script down for the audience. “Well it seemed like Mayweather until I ran a multi-phased gamma wave scan and detected trace particles of Tristoline.” We’d all be screaming technobabble. “So how’d you find out it wasn’t Mayweater?” “Science stuff you wouldn’t understand.” Well gosh, that doesn’t explain anything, now does it? Or avoid it altogether and wonder if the writers forgot. What’s the best solution here? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/30 "2002-10-10T19:37:40Z")
I think it would have been very cool if Hoshi had noticed Mayweather wasn’t wearing his secret decoder ring or something non-technobabble that a friend would notice but a meg computer would skip. ---
**Author:** ![ChuckForbin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@ChuckForbin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChuckForbin)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/31 "2002-10-10T19:44:28Z")
Well, I liked it, but I always like Enterprise. Such is my life, and my standards. I wanted to see it early so I tapped into Canivorus’es Canadian feed, but unfortunately, I dont speak Canadian, and there were no subtitles. But it looked good. Did anyone else notice one of the brainsucking tubes was attached to a guy who looked a lot like Wesley Crusher ? I can’t remember anything else as the previews for next week pretty much wiped out my memory of the show. It’s nice to see that people actually get laid on the Enterprise. By Picard’s time, I think they forgot how. I give it a 7/10, or 6.5/10 canadian. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/32 "2002-10-10T19:48:44Z")
Chuck, do you have C band or were you watching Canadian TV? I though Ashcroft had built a fence around furrin TV transmitters. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/33 "2002-10-10T20:21:33Z")
Wait - it it still furrin if it was ORIGINALLY american, and just snuck back home via canada? On second thought, the Canadians have probably polluted it with Evil UnAmerican Television waves of Foreignness. Can’t have that. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/34 "2002-10-10T20:32:10Z")
I liked the episode just fine until they explained what the station was doing with the kidnappees. That was intensely stupid, on the level of _The Matrix_ and coppertops. I would have been perfectly happy if the station were simply collecting biological samples in such a way that the remaining crew weren’t supposed to know what happened. “Oops, he’s dead, let’s go,” and nobody ever knows that Mayweather has been dropped into some alien zoo. (Or put in a big jar with a Klingon female, and shaken up by alien kids: “Let’s see if they fight!”) Added as a parallel microprocessor? Dumb. The thing with the vaccination germs was okay, but it would have been better if they’d stuck with ordinary symbiotes. “All the e. coli in the gut are dead. Ditto for the little mites at the base of his eyelashes. Everything.” As far as the overall show goes, I say this is slightly better than average, which indicates a minor upward trend. I’m still hanging in there, though “Firefly” is stealing a lot of imaginative thunder. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/35 "2002-10-10T20:32:24Z")
You have a future in gum’mut, kn(your message here, ten cents)ckers. Er, what’s this ‘snuck back home via Canada’ thingie? ---
**Author:** ![ChuckForbin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@ChuckForbin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChuckForbin)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/36 "2002-10-10T20:49:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > \*\*Chuck, do you have C band or were you watching Canadian TV? 🙂 \*\* Hell, I dont know. I have a special hookup in my ice fishin’ shack,eh. Just pop open a Molson and click the “Aboot” button. You’ll see what I mean. or maybe it was those shrooms i got in BC ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/37 "2002-10-10T21:18:50Z")
Sounds like some pretty cool shit, whatever it is. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/38 "2002-10-10T22:07:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kingpengvin \* Always nice to see another Black Adder fan. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2002, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/39 "2002-10-11T00:13:48Z")
Ok ok, no one except you guys (er gals…) watch Star Trek for the guys. Happy now? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2002, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620/40 "2002-10-11T01:44:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elf6c \* > \*\*For a while I thought they had actually killed off a member of the crew with a speaking part. I was pleased. Even better it was seemingly done in retailation for the dunce-tastic duo’s hairbrained scheme, which thet actually got punished for (for once). Alien ethics and a sly dig on the corporate approach- I was digging it. (SNIP) > \*\* * * * ``` I remember running an Enterprise Wish List/Predictions thread several months ago in which I predicted that Trip would be among the first to get himself into serious trouble. I never expected Malcolm to join him in it, though. They may have to separate those two. :D ``` [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-dead-stop-spoliers/131620.md?page=3)