# Enterprise:  Demons   (spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 6, 2005, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737 "2005-05-06T19:35:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/21 "2005-05-07T22:06:48Z")

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???  
Those are the last two eps. One is the ENT finale and one is the Franchise Finale.  
That’s it, according to the official schedules.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/22 "2005-05-07T22:09:07Z")

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But there’s next season to look forward to.

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**Author:** ![Strinka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strinka/32/512_2.png) [@Strinka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strinka)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/23 "2005-05-07T22:36:20Z")

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Nope, this is the last season. It was supposed to get five but it didn’t.

> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Robocop’s message and the laser would travel at the speed of light, and it takes if I remember Apollo, two seconds for light to travel from the Moon to Earth. They’d arrive at essentially the same time.

But he’d be using subspace for the message. Using radio or something that moves at the speed of light then would probably be like using morse code now.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/24 "2005-05-07T22:52:38Z")

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> [@Strinka](#):
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> Nope, this is the last season. It was supposed to get five but it didn’t.

LAST SEASON?

Are my parent’s going to make me move out off the basement?!

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**Author:** ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/25 "2005-05-07T23:18:21Z")

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Yeah - well, what’s Tam Elbron’s connection with Robocop? They seem to be wearing the same suits…

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/26 "2005-05-07T23:52:38Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> LAST SEASON?
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> Are my parent’s going to make me move out off the basement?!

Have you ever kissed a girl?

😃

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**Author:** ![the\_Lady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@the\_Lady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_Lady)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/27 "2005-05-07T23:55:48Z")

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Another vote for “wow - she looks scarily like Lindsay Lohan”

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/28 "2005-05-08T01:29:46Z")

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About that quick scene where Roboweller injects himself - any bets he’s part alien?

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/29 "2005-05-08T01:41:57Z")

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So now HE can say, “Not my damn planet, Monkey Boy!”

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**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/30 "2005-05-08T05:11:33Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Robocop’s message and the laser would travel at the speed of light, and it takes if I remember Apollo, two seconds for light to travel from the Moon to Earth. They’d arrive at essentially the same time.

You weren’t paying attention.

1. He explicitly stated his message was going out on all subspace channels, which means it would travel faster than lightspeed.

2. He fired the beam from the surface of Mars at Earth’s Moon (Luna). The minimum distance between the two bodies is still several light-minutes.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/31 "2005-05-08T14:45:34Z")

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> [@Fiver](#):
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> 1. He explicitly stated his message was going out on all subspace channels, which means it would travel faster than lightspeed.
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> 2. He fired the beam from the surface of Mars at Earth’s Moon (Luna). The minimum distance between the two bodies is still several light-minutes.

I indeed missed the first.

The difference in time between radio and the beam would have the difference traveled from mars to earth amd mars to moon.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/32 "2005-05-08T17:05:52Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> But there’s next season to look forward to.

There are reruns, to be sure. And the DVD sets. That’s it for ENT.  
There may be more Trek of some kind, but not any time soon.

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/33 "2005-05-08T21:52:18Z")

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Maybe the Enterprise only extrapolated the beam’s direction, and the CGI was shown as it happened minutes later. Dramatic license.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/34 "2005-05-08T22:00:08Z")

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Sounds good to me.

Good gad, I’m going to miss being an apologist for this show.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/35 "2005-05-08T22:27:40Z")

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I was just looking at the TATV spoilers and pics for the franchise finale. Man, Riker is definitely back in his fat period. No wonder he’s playing

Chef in the holo-re-creation.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/36 "2005-05-08T22:42:04Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> No wonder he’s playing
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> Chef in the holo-re-creation.

No, no!  
They can’t do this!  
It’s gotta be:

Issac Hayes

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/37 "2005-05-09T01:13:51Z")

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Well, you’ll have to write some ENT fanfic in order to achieve that desire.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/38 "2005-05-09T01:23:37Z")

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_Fanfic?_ Chillun, you can’t be writin’ _fanfic_!

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/39 "2005-05-09T15:25:31Z")

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Once Enterprise is done, I’d strongly suggest checking out the fan-produced [http://www.hiddenfrontier.com](http://www.hiddenfrontier.com) . It’s technical aspects are surprisingly good, though it does have some bad dialogue.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-demons-spoilers/302737/40 "2005-05-09T18:45:40Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> _Fanfic?_ Chillun, you can’t be writin’ _fanfic_!

If it’s about Riker, it’s FATfic. I just have to mention that again. Cheez Louise, I really don’t want to watch a TNG ep. pretending to be about ENT. But that’s what we’re left with for the finale. The spoilers don’t sound good at all.

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