# Enterprise - Divergence (spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 26, 2005, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953 "2005-02-26T01:04:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sir\_Rhosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sir\_Rhosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Rhosis)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/41 "2005-03-02T01:35:47Z")

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Roddenberry’s post-Trek work included:

**Pretty Maids All In A Row** –sucky Rock Hudson film.

**Genesis II** : fair post-apocalyptic SF.

**Planet Earth** : Another go at the Genesis II world. Awful!

**The Questor Tapes** : Excellent SF pilot, co-written with Gene Coon just prior to the latter’s death from lung cancer, too bad it never got picked up.

**Spectre** : Robert Culp in a pilot as some guy who hunts demons; not too awful.

Sir Rhosis

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/42 "2005-03-02T01:42:53Z")

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> [@Sir Rhosis](#):
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> For those who don’t know, what \*\*Aesiron \*\*is referring to: Harve Bennett’s first draft script of the film **Star Trek III: The Srearch For Spock** had Romulans as the villains. Director Leonard Nimoy requested that he change it to Klingons as he felt they were stronger villains. Bennett did so, but left the Bird of Prey (a Romulan ship) in the script with no explanation as to why the Klingons were naming their vessel types after those used by Romulans.
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> Right, Robert?

Although I didn’t know about Nimoy requesting the change and thought it was just spontaneous story evolution, that’s what I was referring to, yeah.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/43 "2005-03-02T01:45:23Z")

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> [@Sir Rhosis](#):
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> The Klingons who appeared in DS9’s _Blood Oath_ were…
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> Kor (from the TOS episode _Errand of Mercy_)
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> Koloth (from _The Trouble With Tribbles_)
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> Kang (from _Day of The Dove_)
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> One can assume they were either cured of the smooth look, or elected to undergo polastic surgery in their old age to get their bumps.

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/44 "2005-03-02T01:52:02Z")

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Why don’t you guys worry about something important, like WTH happened to Kirk’s hair?  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/45 "2005-03-02T01:55:38Z")

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It’s a tribble.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_Rhosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sir\_Rhosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Rhosis)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/46 "2005-03-02T01:59:10Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Why don’t you guys worry about something important, like WTH happened to Kirk’s hair?  
> 🙂

At last I can let the SDMB in on a secret. I am not a 6’ 2", 215 lb. 41-year-old Kentuckian with wavy graying brown hair and a magnificent Dan Haggerty-like beard, I am actually a short, skinny nebbish geeky-looking fellow named Brannon Braga, and at last Master Rick has allowed me to divulge plot details from the **Enterprise** finale.

Dr. Phlox is kidnapped by a time-traveling Spock and McCoy and taken to the future where an insidious virus released by Koloth the Klingon has mutated Kirk’s short neat blondish-brown hair into a freaking MASSIVE BLACK POMPADOUR! Can Phlox save the day… tune in in May…

Sir Rhosis

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/47 "2005-03-02T01:59:53Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Why don’t you guys worry about something important, like WTH happened to Kirk’s hair?  
> 🙂

yeah…or how the hell Scotty put on so much weight. (Was he eating fattened tribbles?)

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**Author:** ![Sir\_Rhosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sir\_Rhosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Rhosis)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/48 "2005-03-02T02:04:28Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> yeah…or how the hell Scotty put on so much weight. (Was he eating fattened tribbles?)

Don’t you remember? In **The Voyage Home** there were actually three whales–George, Gracie and Fred Allen–but Scotty got a little hungry enroute to the future…

Sir Rhosis

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/49 "2005-03-02T02:21:16Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> yeah…or how the hell Scotty put on so much weight. (Was he eating fattened tribbles?)

Obviously caused by the massive alcohol problem so clearly shown in TOS. Scotty could have cracked warp 10, metaphasic shielding, intraship transport, and phased cloaking devices, if only he’d stayed sober.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/50 "2005-03-02T06:21:10Z")

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Hey, that’s what’s been missing on ENT: drinking! Kirk did it, Scotty did it, McCoy kept Saurian brandy in Sickbay…

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/51 "2005-03-02T06:45:32Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> Hey, that’s what’s been missing on ENT: drinking! Kirk did it, Scotty did it, McCoy kept Saurian brandy in Sickbay…

Captain Archer shared some Andorian ale with Shran just a couple of weeks ago… (In _Babel One_ IIRC)

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/52 "2005-03-02T18:42:52Z")

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Who needs alcohol when you’ve got a Vulcan junkie on board?

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/53 "2005-03-02T21:34:59Z")

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They should be drinking a lot more…Maybe somebody could build a still and hide somewhere.

Isn’t T’Pol off the stuff now? She just craving Trip these days.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/54 "2005-03-02T21:37:42Z")

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hide \*\*it \*\* somewhere.

* * *

Since we now have reruns till April:

What will you miss most about ENT?

In no particular order, here is my list o’ stuff to be missed:

Porthos  
Panda  
Trip running around in his blue undies  
Archer with his shirt off  
Phlox and his critters  
Shran  
Chef

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**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/55 "2005-03-02T21:40:06Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Who needs alcohol when you’ve got a Vulcan junkie on board?

She may be a drink’a’water, but she’s hard to swallow.  
[sub]There’s another joke in there too.[/sub]

> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> She just craving Trip these days.

She’s trippin, man!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/56 "2005-03-02T22:01:39Z")

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Trip and Archer drank beer.  
They have wine at the Captain’s table sometimes.  
Shran and Cap’n leap did this male, er, bug bonding thing with something blue.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/57 "2005-03-02T23:17:52Z")

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Beer? Must have been ages ago. Are you keeping track of alcohol consumption on board?

I wonder what the difference is between Romulan ale (which I have had) and Andorian ale (which I have not, because I lack the recipe).

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/58 "2005-03-02T23:50:34Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> B Are you keeping track of alcohol consumption on board?

Well, _you_ aren’t, so someone must.  
It’s a thankless task.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/59 "2005-03-03T02:29:06Z")

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> [@Corner Case](#):
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> She may be a drink’a’water, but she’s hard to swallow.  
> [sub]There’s another joke in there too.[/sub]  
> She’s trippin, man!

She reminds me more of a dried-out snappable twig than anything fluid, and she hardly swallows…anything.

I’m sure there’s a far, far better joke to be made. But not by me.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/60 "2005-03-03T02:36:54Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> What will you miss most about ENT?

:dubious:

**HOSHI**

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