# Enterprise - Divergence (spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 26, 2005, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953 "2005-02-26T01:04:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/101 "2005-03-07T21:07:32Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Now shall they make an episode explaining how Romulans acquired ridges, apparently before the Klingon virus?
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> And they must explain why Enterprise phasers make a hole in the target as do DS9, Voyager and I believe TNG phasers, but TOS phasers vaporize the target.

Romulans have ridges because they smile and frown, whereas Vulcans don’t. That’s why Surak started his whole movement. He found that when he smiled at a pretty girl he had these horrible brow ridges form and he could never get a date for the prom.

TOS phasers vaporized because Kirk was a stud and didn’t want any of that wimpy holes-in-stuff crap.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/102 "2005-03-07T21:09:04Z")

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He was more of a stuff in holes guy.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/103 "2005-03-07T21:11:32Z")

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Stuffin’ holes, rather.

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**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/104 "2005-03-07T21:18:28Z")

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James T… Kirk’n’Stuff,  
Who’s the man when things get rough,  
James T… Kirk’n’Stuff,  
Can’t do a little 'cause he can’t get enough.

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/105 "2005-03-07T21:24:21Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> Since we now have reruns till April:
> 
> What will you miss most about ENT?

Two things, mostly:

\*Watching the episodes with my wife.

\*Discussing them here.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/106 "2005-03-08T04:06:20Z")

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Interestingly, some of the best threads we had as Trek Dopers were when the show (ENT) was at it’s worst. Remember the first half of Season II? We would come into a thread expecting the show to suck and we would play and make up our own little scenes. Newcomers would get confused and annoyed because the current episode discussion wouldn’t even begin until about post 75 or so. Some amazingly witty parodies found their way into the threads of Trek Dopers. We love Trek so much that we were willing to make fun of the shit that was being aired.

::sigh::

No more. We will have to do several years of Trek Summer threads, rehashing old ideas or desperatley trying to come up with a fresh look at all the same old silly questions.

Trek Doping just won’t be the same without a current series.

THAT’S what I’m going to be sad about.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/107 "2005-03-08T07:18:45Z")

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Hi, Linus!!!

See, I noticed you. Now we’ll see if anyone else did.  
Yeah, I need the SD on “smell you.”

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/108 "2005-03-08T12:59:45Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> Trek Doping just won’t be the same without a current series.

Maybe we could get jobs.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/109 "2005-03-08T13:03:55Z")

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You guys aren’t critics?

I’ve been wasting my past two years here, obviously.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/110 "2005-03-08T13:13:04Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> You guys aren’t critics?

[Sure we are.](http://scifi.about.com/od/reviews/a/kirshararev.htm)

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/111 "2005-03-08T13:15:52Z")

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We? So you’re an aristocrat too?

You think you know a person.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/112 "2005-03-08T14:23:26Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> Hi, Linus!!!
> 
> See, I noticed you. Now we’ll see if anyone else did.  
> Yeah, I need the SD on “smell you.”

My post was a reply to his. So there! 😛  
As for your other problem, it goes all the way back to the Pleistocene Epoch of the Neogene Period of the Cenozoic Era. I was there. Hey, my Earth history goes all the way to the Eoarchean Era of the Archaean division of the Eonothem Eon of Precambrian Time. If my rocket hadn’t exploded, you guys never would’ve happened.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/113 "2005-03-08T14:30:57Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> If my rocket hadn’t exploded, you guys never would’ve happened.

I hope you meant that literally.

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/114 "2005-03-08T17:17:04Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> You guys aren’t critics?
> 
> I’ve been wasting my past two years here, obviously.

Yeah, like you had anything better to do.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/115 "2005-03-08T19:14:57Z")

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> [@gonzoron](#):
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> It may be that the Klingon’s “Don’t discuss it with outsiders” but now Archer and his whole crew know. Surely that knowledge wasn’t lost.

I agree. The more I think about this episode, the more I hate it. I kinda liked the first half, because the revelation about the stolen augment material was kind of a neat way to integrate the plots, but the way it wound up playing out just makes absolutely no sense at all.

Oh, and **Aesiron** , careful with that “blue phaser” stuff, or in ten years _Star Trek: Stovokor_ will have to do a flashback episode showing how one of Kirk’s uncles went on a secret mission to the Delta Quadrant to steal phaser crystals from Species 3259 in order to prevent the Founders from developing a combination soliton-wave/cloak-field generator and thereby ruin Little Sulu’s third birthday party on Khitomer, and that’s why phasers changed color.  
Then the hardcore fans will ask: Wait a minute— Species 3259? Isn’t that what the Borg calls Vulcans? …Thus cuing yet another flashback episode ten years after **that** to explain why this bit of synchronicity **actually makes total sense!** instead of just being yet another dumb coincidence.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/116 "2005-03-08T19:35:17Z")

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Species 3259, you and your broomstick will be assimilated.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/117 "2005-03-08T22:09:17Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> My post was a reply to his. So there! 😛  
> As for your other problem, it goes all the way back to the Pleistocene Epoch of the Neogene Period of the Cenozoic Era. I was there. Hey, my Earth history goes all the way to the Eoarchean Era of the Archaean division of the Eonothem Eon of Precambrian Time. If my rocket hadn’t exploded, you guys never would’ve happened.

Hmm, my tricorder detects a City Of Fear reference.

Fascinating.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/118 "2005-03-08T22:53:34Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Maybe we could get jobs.

This **is** my job!

Today is their last day of production, aside from possible reshoots, pick ups, and re-recording of dialogue. Then the sets come down. SpikeTV was interested, but nobody at Paramount gives a crap enough (how’s that for syntax?) to shop the show.

Okay, fine. I’ll just get the DVDs.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2005, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/119 "2005-03-16T02:51:59Z")

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Well, here’s something for you guys to look forward to:

In the Mirror episodes, there is supposed to be a fight between Mirror-Hoshi and Mirror-T’Pol.

So would that be girl-on-girl or girl-on-skeleton?  
I’m looking forward to the knock-down drag-out between Trip and Kelby in “Bound.”

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2005, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-divergence-spoilers/291953/120 "2005-03-16T02:58:58Z")

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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is Kelby

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