# Enterprise Expanse SPOILER thread! It's the season Finale, where's the \<3? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 20, 2003, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383 "2003-05-20T20:40:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/101 "2003-05-22T22:18:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*(cause of the aliens attacking Florida and all) > > \*\* :smack: Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/102 "2003-05-22T22:59:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*Why is Earth so freakin’ popular? Why don’t aliens ever attack Vulcan? \*\* Those polyknit shirts they all seem to wear get caught on the pointy ears. No sense trying to be an attacker if you’re going to look all dorky and lame with pulled-out threads and stuff. Intersteller conquerors need to look intimidating. Would you be scared of a Klingon with a run in his shorts? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/103 "2003-05-22T23:15:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Saltire \* > \*\*Not counting the Klingon and Suliban ships that crashed in Oklahoma two years ago… \*\* Who were mainly just a danger to each other, not to the general Earth population. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/104 "2003-05-22T23:17:42Z")
unless you count the helpless rows of corn… ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/105 "2003-05-22T23:25:07Z")
We don’t grow much corn over here. Gets so hot in the Summer that it starts popping and scares the livin’ pee-waddin’s out of us. We mostly grow wheat and other grasses. In the panhadle, we grow spaghetti since it fits the long, skinny farms so much better… ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/106 "2003-05-22T23:28:44Z")
Because Vulcans kick ass. Haven’t you seen _Amok Time_? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/107 "2003-05-23T00:21:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \* > \*\*In the panhadle, we grow spaghetti since it fits the long, skinny farms so much better… \*\* Now you’re just makin’ stuff up. Everybody knows spaghetti is slowly exuded from Italian pores and harvested by shaving when it’s long enough. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/108 "2003-05-23T00:41:52Z")
Ah, Cervaise, but pasta was brought to Europe from Asia by Marco Polo. Talk your way out of that one, pesto breath! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/109 "2003-05-23T00:43:40Z")
> [@](#): > > _Tars:_ > Why is Earth so freakin’ popular? Why don’t aliens ever attack Vulcan? The Vulcan Science Directorate has determined that attacks on Vulcan are not logical. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/110 "2003-05-23T01:08:11Z")
Because those Earthers are bound determined to get out there and get in as much trouble as possible. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/111 "2003-05-23T01:34:34Z")
Is it “bound determined” or “bound _and_ determined?” Note: Statements by Charles Tucker III may not be used as evidence for grammatical arguement. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/112 "2003-05-23T01:54:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > \*\*Ah, Cervaise, but pasta was brought to Europe from Asia by Marco Polo. > \*\* Yeah? Well Archer likes Water Polo! (and it all comes together) ---
**Author:** ![SirRay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@SirRay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirRay)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/113 "2003-05-23T02:03:56Z")
Can I be really annoying and ask why the channel cut through Florida (and Cuba etc.) was not filled with water from the ocean when Trip and Malcolm surveyed it? When the beam cut through Cuba it then went right into the ocean, so obviously the channel was deep enough (and probably in Florida too). Even Janeway wasn’t dumb enough to waste all her Photon (Quantum?) Torpedoes on one enemy - should have used 100% yield right at the start on Duras. Maybe Duras’s ship had too many wafer thin mints on board for them to go into the Deltic expanse… ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/114 "2003-05-23T03:40:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*Yeah? Well Archer likes Water Polo! > > (and it all comes together) \*\* Hey, the probe was directed mostly to the Gulf of Mexico. Which is (slightly dirty) salt water… And humans are ugly bags of mostly water! We have solved the mystery of Quantum’s Leap. Way to go, Scooby! (btw, **SirRay** asks an excellent question(z)!!!) ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/115 "2003-05-23T04:20:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SirRay \* > \*\*Can I be really annoying and ask why the channel cut through Florida (and Cuba etc.) was not filled with water from the ocean when Trip and Malcolm surveyed it? When the beam cut through Cuba it then went right into the ocean, so obviously the channel was deep enough (and probably in Florida too). > \*\* Beavers. Big Space Beavers. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/116 "2003-05-23T04:51:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cervaise \* > **Another question about the Space Marines: Will the show’s producers take advantage of [new directions in combat technology](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=569&ncid=738&e=1&u=/nm/20030522/tc_nm/arms_mit_dc), or will the combatants be bulked up with conventional armor because that’s what the lowest-common-denominator viewership expect to see?** Are you kiddin’? Remember the _ST:DS9_ episode “The Siege of AR-558”? That was set in the **24th** century, 200 years after _Enterprise_, and the Federation soldiers fought with weaponry about as effective as what your average foot soldier had in World War 2. Fortunately, the Jem Hadar soldiers were just as poorly equipped as the Federation. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/117 "2003-05-23T04:52:45Z")
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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/118 "2003-05-23T06:13:45Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Kn_ckers\* > **…Earth rarely (if ever) suffers major disasters in the Star Trek universe…** There was the attempted coup by a Starfleet Admiral and the attack by the Breen, both during DS9. Then, of course, there are the Borg in “The Best of Both Worlds” and “First Contact”. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/119 "2003-05-23T06:52:11Z")
yes, but they never did anything. The Borg snoozed, V’Ger’s probes didn’t go off, Borg 2.0 got nuked and had to travel back in time, Whale probe did some damage but when away. The Breen was the only casualty inflicting attack, including a SF hit (those fridge suit bastards shot up my current home! Also, unbelievable stuff fromt he season finally: Night shot in “San Francisco” that had: No Fog, No Wind, No Homeless drunk Hippies…obviously fake! ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383/120 "2003-05-23T11:54:14Z")
\>If the bad guys have time travel, why wasn’t the test probe \>followed by the real thing in about five seconds? They didn’t have time travel, they had communication from the fyooooture. Star charts would either be unverifiable or predictable (hey, we already know where the north star will be in a couple million years). Florida shot was probably above sea level, and so the water wouldn’t come in. The hippies were waiting underground to take over the Federation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-expanse-spoiler-thread-its-the-season-finale-wheres-the-3/176383.md?page=7)