# Enterprise Future Tense Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 19, 2003, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065 "2003-02-19T04:34:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/101 "2003-02-25T13:31:06Z")
A few more points… I thought that Vulcans could not lie. T’pol did a pretty good job doing so. _frown_ and yes, the warp speed/kilometers thing was extremely screwed up. When Archer said “few million kilometers” he should have been there 1/100 of a second after he finished speaking. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/102 "2003-02-25T14:43:02Z")
**athelas:** T’Pol is, by contemporary Vulcan standards, _insane!_ She was sent for deep-trance memory burial after killing The Seventh, those repressed memories are still bothering her, she’s not doing a very good job of controlling her emotions, and she has been known to associate with mind-melders. For her to lie is the _least_ of her sins. Well, maybe wearing the cat-suit when other Vulcan women don’t might beat that one out, but still. Lying? Kinda petty. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/103 "2003-02-25T18:16:45Z")
Vulcans lie all the time, it is an Urban legend (or a Spacer Legend, to update it i guess). This vulcan chick told me she’d call, but Nooo… (at least i think she was a Vulcan, and i think she was real, and not me drunk talking to that Cat in the Hat painting by the Day Care center again.) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/104 "2003-02-25T19:47:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by athelas \* > **I thought that Vulcans could not lie.** It’s a paradox. Any Vulcan who says that Vulcans cannot lie is, in fact, lying. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/105 "2003-02-25T19:54:11Z")
Nah, it’s when you _ask_ him if he’s lying and he says, “Yes.” ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/106 "2003-02-25T19:58:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jeff Olsen \* > \*\*It’s a paradox. Any Vulcan who says that Vulcans cannot lie is, in fact, lying. \*\* don’t say that, he’s one of them Mudd Androids, if you confuse him, he’ll short circuit. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/107 "2003-02-26T01:20:57Z")
Hey, **Tars** , pick up the March 1 TV Guide and look on page 30! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/108 "2003-02-26T06:27:44Z")
of course i read this after i get home… ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/109 "2003-02-26T08:25:58Z")
I finally see this one, and WOW!!! This one ruled!! Between the Tholians, the Missing Zephrem Cochrane continuity, and the cool space battles, it rocked! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/110 "2003-02-26T13:21:58Z")
re: Vulcans lieing Saavik: “You lied?!?” Spock: “I exaggerated.” _STII:TWOK_ ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/111 "2003-02-26T13:50:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \* > \*\* > > Why did the Andorians disappear? \*\* They didn’t They were in the court/tribunal/Starfleet spanking thingy scene in _STIV:TVH_ But only for a moment. Then, the Suliban guy (Lando Calrissian) flew his timeship/TARDIS into the heart of San Fransisco and bought up all the Knob Hill properties, later turning them all into Starbucks because his master (Michael Myers) thought it would help him find his sister (a naked Jamie Lee Curtis) so they could finally all be destroyed by the Vogons. **Viva** , it’s all ice over here (OKC) now, I got in just in time _:::in time…:::_ so I may not get out to pick up the tape til later. In your spoiler box, the sex stuff is all true but not the dog vomit. Really, you shouldn’t mix sex stuff and dog vomit, I’m amazed you tried. **Tars** , my condolences to you for being from that horrible excuse for an area of the US to be from (?). I hated every minute of it. Except for the working stuff. At least that made me some money. * * * Big XII Basketball… Yeaay OU! You know why it’s _always_ so windy in Oklahoma? Because Texas sucks and Kansas blows! 😃 (Hey, and I’m a natural born South Texan, but Houston isn’t in the Big XII) ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/112 "2003-02-26T14:44:37Z")
[Non-sequitur] You know what this thread needs? More poetry, that’s what. So here ya go: Ode to the Weird-Ass Time-Travel Ship Thingy by Kn\*ckers O, Spaceship, thou art mighty nice With metal bits galore. Thy circuitry is neuralish, Thy hull of some strange ore. Thou sure art wacky, Spaceship, And cloaked in mystery. It would be cool to climb inside and take a cruise in thee. But thine insides are really big, Despite thy tiny shell, I fear I’d fall down into thee, Like Timmy down the well. So I shall leave thy study To those folks who know thee best Like Trip and Reed and Archer, And that Vulcan lady’s chest. Goodbye, Dear Wacky Future Ship Thou must to thy time flee But these days we shall remember, And often think on thee. [/non-sequitur] ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/113 "2003-02-26T18:12:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \* > \*\* > **Tars** , my condolences to you for being from that horrible excuse for an area of the US to be from (?). I hated every minute of it. Except for the working stuff. At least that made me some money. > \*\* Hey, it’s not all bad, oh, wait, yes it is, since the only good thing there (me) has left ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/114 "2003-02-27T01:46:56Z")
**Kn\*ckers** , that was fabulous. I think I’ll make my students explicate it in an essay of no fewer than five paragraphs. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/115 "2003-02-27T02:29:25Z")
You teach, viva? Influence the young? ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/116 "2003-02-27T05:44:47Z")
Class, your final paper will be on Kirk vs. Picard, 10 pages. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/117 "2003-02-27T05:51:20Z")
Corrupt the young I do, **flesheatingplant**. And some not so young (it’s all community college). English professors do it past, present and future… (Holy sheet, I’m Daniels!) I want at least seven references in the Works Cited page on that final paper, with three of them acknowledging slash websites. I did say I was corrupt, did I not? ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/118 "2003-02-27T13:11:36Z")
What, only five paragraphs, **viva**? I thought it was a far more subtle and complex allegorical statement than that - I’d think it would take a multiple-volume work to fully parse my tortured and complex work of lyric genius. But I’d be wrong… Anyway, I’m glad that SOMEONE is corrupting the youth (and un-youth) of America, and who better than our beloved **vivamissingmoney**? Hooray for edjucashun! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/119 "2003-02-27T13:48:53Z")
I remember skule. That’s where I got my drugs. :eek: BTW, **Viva** , remember that guy in the denim jakket last Fryday nite? he kept dropping his pinsill and axing you to pick it up? that was me. nice pants, little girl. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065/120 "2003-02-28T01:29:24Z")
That was Wednesday night, ya silly. But thanks. I have just received a cause and effect essay titled “The Efects of the Babies Who Born In Their Parents’ Bosoms.” Everybody run…it’s the syntax from another planet!!! :eek: The Syntax, as you know, are notorious for causing mass confusion among all the races they encounter. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-future-tense-spoilers/156065.md?page=7)