# Enterprise Harbinger (Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 10, 2004, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531 "2004-02-10T23:12:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2004, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/1 "2004-02-10T23:12:24Z")
I haven’t seen it yet, but I’m starting this anyway. Is there enough Nekked Trip to please both **tarragon** and me? Is it Panda With a Purpose? What was that song playing over the promos? Is the Reed/Hayes knockdown/dragout satisfying? Does anybody else on board find out about it? What’s with the alien dude? Will I even care, given all the other commotion? ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/2 "2004-02-11T00:45:47Z")
Panda needs no porpoise. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/3 "2004-02-11T01:53:58Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Panda needs no porpoise. But interspecies romance is so cool. Especialy with VD so close! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/4 "2004-02-11T02:49:32Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > Is there enough Nekked Trip to please both **tarragon** and me? > Is it Panda With a Purpose? > What was that song playing over the promos? > Is the Reed/Hayes knockdown/dragout satisfying? > Does anybody else on board find out about it? > What’s with the alien dude? > Will I even care, given all the other commotion? I dunno. No. I dunno. Eh. Yeah. Archer is _really_ pissed. He’s a bad guy. No. ---
**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/5 "2004-02-11T02:58:23Z")
How can there ever be enough?! **Viva** , I hope you’ve been following the “Enterprise in Real Life” thread on TWoP–the latest post is up, and Connor is in it!!! Guess I will have to wait until tomorrow night to find out just how much we’ll see of Trip & T’Pol. And hope that my UPN station will air it again on Saturday night. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/6 "2004-02-11T03:11:20Z")
ENT in Real Life, what , huh? I read Keckler’s transcripts of the show every week at TWOP, but I haven’t seen what you’re referring to. Link? ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/7 "2004-02-11T03:14:57Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I dunno. > No. > I dunno. > Eh. > Yeah. Archer is _really_ pissed. > He’s a bad guy. > No. Okay, I realize now that “enough” and “satisfying” are relative terms. So it’s keelhauling for the brawlers, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/8 "2004-02-11T07:02:55Z")
dueling threads? Keen! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/9 "2004-02-11T13:16:53Z")
> [@Tars Tarkas](#): > > dueling threads? Keen! Oh no. We are all one big happy fleet. Besides, I posted first. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/10 "2004-02-11T13:20:45Z")
I dunno, but [This guy](http://forums.lowerdecks.com/index.php?showtopic=8035) really liked it (he almost never gives the top rating). Don’t see how it can be that good while containing the promo scenes, but I’ll give it a try nevertheless. ---
**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/11 "2004-02-11T14:18:59Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > ENT in Real Life, what , huh? > > I read Keckler’s transcripts of the show every week at TWOP, but I haven’t seen what you’re referring to. Link? Oh my, I thought you posted over there, following threads and the like! Sorry I didn’t get back to the boards until this morning, but here’s the link: [http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=994829&st=105&#entry1006642](http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=994829&st=105&#entry1006642) ---
**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/12 "2004-02-11T14:25:13Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > I dunno, but [This guy](http://forums.lowerdecks.com/index.php?showtopic=8035) really liked it (he almost never gives the top rating). > > Don’t see how it can be that good while containing the promo scenes, but I’ll give it a try nevertheless. Athelas–I -love- your .sig!!! is that original!!! If not, who is the author, if you know? LOL Priceless! ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/13 "2004-02-11T17:00:17Z")
Thanks, Tarragon 🙂 Actually, I made it up a few days after Dean’s concession screech. I don’t think it’s anywhere else, but there have been one or two times when I came up with an idea independently and found that someone else had thought of it :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/14 "2004-02-11T22:15:58Z")
I claim this thread in the name of Mars! Isn’t that lovely? ---
**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/15 "2004-02-12T00:00:36Z")
OK, **Viva** , looks like your thread wins. As usual, I’m waiting and seeing. I’ll probably disappear from this thread for a while once the real spoilers are about to start. I hate spoilers and want to form my own opinion before **Tars** starts claiming opinions in the name of Mars. However, the previews seem to indicate that we’re going to be getting some of that on board conflict/tension that **Cervaise** has been asking for (and not just sexual tension). I wonder if T’Pol mentally spells it T’Rip… ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/16 "2004-02-12T01:06:50Z")
Okay, it’s on… Teaser: Another arc recap. Ends with the clone sleeps alone unrequited love scene. Episode starts with a little panda. Except it’s Trip and the Maaco chick. She has big lips, too. Trip didn’t seem to be expecting the kiss. She’s a little different looking, tho. I guess it’s the nonHollywood nose. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/17 "2004-02-12T01:14:12Z")
> [@Linus Van Pelt](#): > > As usual, I’m waiting and seeing. I’ll probably disappear from this thread for a while once the real spoilers are about to start. I hate spoilers and want to form my own opinion before **Tars** starts claiming opinions in the name of Mars. That’s it! I’m claiming this statement for Mars, also!!! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/18 "2004-02-12T01:17:24Z")
Act I: Captain’s Star Log: December 27, 2153 Malcolm is being stubborn about letting Maaco lead. I don’t get his pissyness. T’Pol’s body language while Phlox was telling her the Trip/Maaco problem was a good touch. (Folded arms, defensive posture) MAlcolm and Maaco Dude are both assholes. Mayweather gets some diologue, no acting, but at least it’s dialogue. The Divergence was a cool effect. I like the fact that manula override from engineering can run ships engines. The Slaver in stasis was odd. What species will HE be? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/19 "2004-02-12T01:28:54Z")
Act II: The LLLLLOOOONNNNGGGG Maaco session was filler, only salient point was setting up more Malcolm vs Maaco conflict. The alien is a Sphere Builder? Hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531/20 "2004-02-12T01:45:37Z")
MAJOR SPOILER AHEAD! SERIOUS CHARACTER IMPLICATIONS INVOLVED Act III Confrontation between T’Pol and T’Maaco. Not really confrontation, more of a conversation. More Maaco sessions. Maaco Dude just taking digs at Malcolm now. Soooo obvious. :rolleyes: Trip tries to calm down Malcolm’s hate of Hayes (Maaco Dude). But, Malcolm is just being a pissy little ass. What gives? He turns tit for tat with Trip about Amanda and T’Pol. Why are they writing him up as such a jerk lately? RockManAlien looks vaguely Suliban. But, he’s transdimensional. Sent here on some unknown errand. (Never get out of the boat.) So… why would trannies be humanoid in form? Still on course for the red giant. Is this the scene where we see T’Ripp and T’Pol? They discuss jealousy. She has a smooth voice, that Jolene. Sexy. The conversation about Simm was kind of funny. LIPLOCK! NUDITY! (very breif and no bits of anyone showed) The assumption is sex, of course. Trannie Alien Rock Man lied. Is this a non climax/denoument episode? Will have to wrap it all rather quick… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-harbinger-spoilers/228531.md?page=2)