# Enterprise Home spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 22, 2004, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518 "2004-10-22T00:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/21 "2004-10-23T06:11:07Z")
The parts of the other two tapes that I watched were fine… it was just the one that was acting odd and it was only in the middle. Joan, which was on the beggining of that tape, worked fine whereas ENT didn’t and it was three hours in. Can’t remember which tape it was… may’ve been the eight hour. Was it the one with SNL on it? ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/22 "2004-10-23T15:47:18Z")
Unfortunately, I screwed up taping last week’s, so I missed that - so I made it a point to sit down and watch this one. [Sarcasm]I hear Brent Spiner’s going to guest soon - I wish they’d shown an advertisement or teaser for that. [/Sarcasm] All in all, good stuff. Could’ve used more Hoshi, but that’s often true. I _liked_ the Doctor’s puffer-fish routine. A very nice transitional episode away form last year’s Xindi arc and into this year’s stunt-casting, which I hope will bring up the ratings. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/23 "2004-10-24T00:36:28Z")
One more oddity: Trip doesn’t seem to break a sweat or even complain about the heat, and he’s covered in blankies while sleeping. On Vulcan? Hot, hot Vulcan? Kirk and McCoy griped about it a bit in “Amok Time.” Did Vulcan have global warming that fast? **Aes** : you have the tapes; you tell me. 🙂 I am using the six hour jobs from now on. I just mailed the one with “Home” on it to you this morning. I am filling another one with Joan and more. Check the dates written on the sides of the boxes. Could have sworn the 10/15 ep. of Joan was on there somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/24 "2004-10-24T00:53:48Z")
Trip’s from Florida which I can safely assume to be even hotter and muggier than Tennessee and Georgia. After twenty years of broasting there, you think the dry heat of Vulcan’s going to bother him? Remember, Kirk was from Iowa, one of them Yankee states that gets like fifteen feet of snow every week in winter. Down South, a lot of people think that stuff’s just a myth. So far as the tapes go, I don’t know since they’re over at **Kat** ’s. Not having a VCR, I’m not in the habit of keeping them over here. Once I finish watching, I just leave it over there for them to use. And I checked repeatedly. I only got one episode of _Joan_. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/25 "2004-10-24T01:12:55Z")
McCoy was a Georgian, was he not? ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/26 "2004-10-24T01:15:54Z")
Yeah, but he was well into middle age. You’re in Arkansas, aren’t you? Don’t your peers complain of the heat? I know all the older people back home did. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/27 "2004-10-24T01:24:58Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > your peers … older people I _am_ from Arkansas, and I’m trying to decide whether to kick your ass or laugh… ^:dubious:^ ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/28 "2004-10-24T01:33:47Z")
If you are feeling agressive tendencies, play [this](http://www.rainbowanimations.com/animations/view.php?id=enterprise2). If so inclined, you can kill Spot, smother Wesley, and kick Michael Jackson, Riker, and a surly ewok’s ass. Then you can relax by gettin’ it on with Beverly and Deanna. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/29 "2004-10-24T07:06:47Z")
I’m as surprised as anyone, but I really, honestly, legitimately enjoyed this episode. I mean, it wasn’t just good by _Enterprise_ standards, which means for me mostly a hiatus from the repeated ball-kicking, but it was just plain good by what I consider _Star Trek_ standards. In fact, I am going to watch it again before I say anything more in detail. I want to make sure I’m not imagining things, and I want to be clear about what exactly I liked and why. I will say this, though: > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Archer’s romantic interest Erika is a rather normal looking person. Personally, I thought she was the most attractive woman they’ve had on the show in quite a while. I especially liked that she was his age, with the experience visible on her face. She was a real person, with a real relationship with him. I totally bought her, and I totally liked her. But I have said too much. To the TiVo, Batman! ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/30 "2004-10-24T07:13:45Z")
You mean guest star or recurring character, right? 'cause if you mean anyone, I might have to kick you in the balls the next time we have a PNW 'fest. Ain’t no one hotter than Hoshi. And don’t none of you forget it. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/31 "2004-10-24T07:16:19Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Ain’t no one hotter than Hoshi. …on Enterprise, I mean. As much as I am in awe of Hoshi, she just cannot compare to Ezri, Kira, or Leeta. I feel so bad. I hope she never reads this. I still love you, Hoshi! ---
**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/32 "2004-10-24T07:48:29Z")
I too really enjoyed this episode, although not especially the Archer-centered plot (even as much as I like Bakula, Archer was grating on me!). My focus was more on Vulcan and T’Pol/Trip (smile), and taking in all that was shown of Vulcan–landscape, clothing, furnishing, everything. My one minor gripe was that T’Pol’s clothing was … well, bizarre is the first word that comes to mind. LOL I’d hoped to see her in more traditional Vulcan garb while visiting her homeworld but I guess they went for what would draw the most (male) viewers–revealing. 😛 I’m going to speculate that Trip did -not- tell T’Pol that he was in love with her, and that T’Pol went ahead with the marriage. Which is probably going to put the big kabosh on any future T’Pol/Trip romance, imho. ☹ My question is: doesn’t T’Pol still have that AIDS-like disease that makes her more susceptible to emotions? Hasn’t she kept this disease secret from other Vulcans, including (probably) her mother? Does she plan to keep it from Koss as well? It doesn’t seem as if there was any planned “consummation” of the marriage, btw, at least to me–although if there was to be, T’Pol would be wrong -not- to tell Koss about that disease. I too was surprised that Trip slept covered in blankets–Vulcan’s climate is HOT all the time, supposedly. Much hotter than Florida. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/33 "2004-10-24T14:04:46Z")
The way Mom talked about it to Trip, and the ‘provisions of the contract’ that T’Pol spoke of (with Koss, then Trip), make it look like this is merely a marraige of convenience and political expediency. T’Pol did allow her true feelings (emotions)show to Trip in her little “Thank you” kiss that we saw her give him. Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but I got that T’Pol was extremely grateful to Trip for ‘allowing’ this union, since it affected her Mother so dearly. In that one little kiss, right before the ceremony (!), she showed a depth of gratitude and love for her man accepting this uncomfortable but needed arangement. Sure, she got married, but she’s interphasic coupling with the Southern boy. ---
**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/34 "2004-10-24T14:47:29Z")
Thank you, **NoClueBoy** for giving my little Trip/T’Pol-shipping heart reason to continue to palpitate! Oh yes, T’Pol did give Trip a glimpse of her emotions with that kiss and I do believe the marriage is solely one of convenience–I just also think that both Trip and T’Pol are honorable, moral folks and while temptation may be great probably would not be drawn into going against marriage vows. But you have given me hope, so thank you! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/35 "2004-10-24T16:56:37Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > \*I would pay for a vid of that! ;j Ah, but remember, he didn’t say he was afraid that Mrs. Plant would **throw** the cat at the TV, he said he was afraind that Mrs. Plant would **THROUGH** the cat at the TV. Perhaps they have one of those “phasing devices” that can make an object go out-of-phase so that it’ll pass through solid matter. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/36 "2004-10-24T20:24:40Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > You mean guest star or recurring character, right? Yes, that’s what I meant: featured guest, not cast member. Of course, next week, there’s an Orion slave girl, so this assessment is strictly provisional. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/37 "2004-10-24T20:26:09Z")
> [@tracer](#): > > Perhaps they have one of those “phasing devices” that can make an object go out-of-phase so that it’ll pass through solid matter. Unless it’s a floor. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/38 "2004-10-24T20:27:54Z")
Or oxygen molecules. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/39 "2004-10-24T21:10:56Z")
I was reading TrekBBS a few minutes ago since the board’s dead and there was something mentioned there that no one here has commented on – Vulcan’s star system was finally identified in the scene where Trip says something about being dragged sixteen light years and that just happens to be how distant 40 Eridani, the star system that fandom’s been using for years, is from Earth. I _love_ little details like this. If nothing else, making things like this and the founding fathers of the Federation being Earth, Vulcan, Tellar, and Andor canon is reason enough for me to like Enterprise. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/40 "2004-10-24T21:13:25Z")
Okay, sorry for the triple-reply but I should say strongly implied instead of identified. While 40 Eridani makes the most amount of sense, I am sure there’re plenty of stars within the 15.5 to 16.4 ly area of Sol. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518.md?page=3)