# Enterprise Home spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 22, 2004, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518 "2004-10-22T00:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/41 "2004-10-24T23:00:35Z")
I had a weird feeling that **Cervaise** was going to enjoy this one. That’s all. I still maintain that blankies on Vulcan are not necessary, especially for Earthlings! I’d send Jolene Blalock a damn gift certificate for In-N-Out if I thought she’d actually use it. My God, if that woman loses any more weight, we’ll be looking directly at her naked bones sticking out of her skin! Yeesh! **Dawn of the Dead** …yeah! Why are zombie movies so much fun?! Did you know that we are [ruled by Vulcans?](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670032999/qid=1098659132/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/002-6079068-3900803) And I still think that 10/15 Joan ep. is on those tapes somewhere, coupled (!) with a JAG episode. I know I watched it. It had to have been on a tape, because I watch ENT while it is taping and J and J are taping on the other VCR. Speaking of which, I had a breaker breakdown today which could have delayed my nightly tapings had it not been for a kindly neighbor who is Trip-like in his ability to fix all sorts of things. ---
**Author:** ![drewbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drewbert/32/15890_2.png) [@drewbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewbert)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/42 "2004-10-24T23:14:13Z")
I did some checking, and Epsilon Eridani appears to be more like 10 light years away. Maybe they took the scenic route. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/43 "2004-10-24T23:14:39Z")
Wonder why they’re called Vulcans. 'cause they’re all lame and ugly? But if that were the case, they’d have to be kind, gentle, and generous to have the analogy fit and that sure isn’t the case. I’ll look at the tape tomorrow but I’m pretty sure I didn’t miss that episode of Joan. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/44 "2004-10-24T23:18:25Z")
> [@drewbert](#): > > I did some checking, and Epsilon Eridani appears to be more like 10 light years away. Maybe they took the scenic route. _40 Eridani (also known as Keid or Omicron 2 Eridani) is a triple star system less than 16.5 light years away from Earth. It is in constellation Eridanus and was discovered to be a double star in 1783 by William Herschel. In 1851, Otto Wilhem von Struve discovered that one of the stars in the double was itself a double._ > **[40 Eridani](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_Eridani)** > > 40 Eridani (abbreviated 40 Eri), also designated Omicron² Eridani (ο² Eridani, abbreviated Omicron² Eri, ο² Eri), is a triple star system in the constellation of Eridanus. Based on parallax measurements taken during the Hipparcos mission, it is less than 17 light-years from the Sun. > The primary star of the system, designated 40 Eridani A, also named Keid, is easily visible to the naked eye. It is orbited by a binary pair whose two components are designated 40 Eridani B and C, and which were disc... ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/45 "2004-10-24T23:37:17Z")
See also: [http://www.stellar-database.com/Scripts/search\_star.exe?Name=40+Eridani](http://www.stellar-database.com/Scripts/search_star.exe?Name=40+Eridani) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/46 "2004-10-25T01:20:46Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > I still maintain that blankies on Vulcan are not necessary, especially for Earthlings! You suppose they invented air conditioning along with waro drive? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/47 "2004-10-25T01:22:54Z")
[Cartman] Gawddamit! WARP drive.[/Cartman] ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/48 "2004-10-25T01:41:55Z")
WARO DRIVE!? Makes sense, actually. It’s the noise it makes on my surround sound… warowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowaro ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/49 "2004-10-25T01:42:43Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > WARO DRIVE!? > > Makes sense, actually. It’s the noise it makes on my surround sound… > > warowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowarowaro Are you sure that’s not the Hypno-Toad? ---
**Author:** ![drewbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drewbert/32/15890_2.png) [@drewbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewbert)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/50 "2004-10-25T03:41:41Z")
Ah. Looks like there are two different stars, both in Eridanus, which have been said to be Vulcan’s system - Episilon and 40. I’d assumed they were the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/51 "2004-10-25T18:26:15Z")
How do we measure a light year, anyway? Trip mentions Vulcan as being 16 light years from Earth. How far is that? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/52 "2004-10-25T18:39:41Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > How do we measure a light year, anyway? Trip mentions Vulcan as being 16 light years from Earth. How far is that? From Hpwstuffworks: [http://science.howstuffworks.com/question94.htm](http://science.howstuffworks.com/question94.htm) 186,000 miles/second \* 60 seconds/minute \* 60 minutes/hour \* 24 hours/day \* 365 days/ year = 5,865,696,000,000 miles/year A light year is 5,865,696,000,000 miles (9,460,800,000,000 kilometers). That’s a long way! ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/53 "2004-10-25T21:31:58Z")
Wow…thanks. I’ll have to check out that site. They’ve probably got all kinds of answers to my burning/smoldering questions. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/54 "2004-10-25T21:48:30Z")
Remember,\* just like a parsec, a light year is a unit of distance, not time. You would be surprised how many intelligent people get that wrong. _Now youse knows…_ \*(here, hold my katra) no one has made this mistake on this board in a long time, I just have an OCBD about it ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/55 "2004-10-25T22:38:32Z")
[sup]_Quick comments before reading previous posts (or subsequent posts, for that matter._[/sup] [ul][li]I loved the architecture in TPol’s house. The inscriptions on the stonework like wallpaper; the quarter circle doorways, the open/airy look and feel. They went to great lengths for that and I hope they can keep the set for a while.[_]They still don’t have the right feel (ha ha) for Vulcans. T’Les’s aloofness in the beginning had too much disgust in it. In the end, it had too much sintimentality. They should look at portraying Vulcans with more of a stoicism (e.g. “Tiger’s bit your leg off.” “Yes. Bloody nuisance. The doctor should be here before the cricket match begins, though.”[_]When I saw the audience applaud Archer’s cheesy speech, I thought the box seats on the right were done with bad CGI. All the little waves and movements were exactly the same; how tacky. Well, maybe those seats were for the Vulcans and they’re all giving their obligatory kind applause in unison.[_]At Archer’s speech, besides it being so cliche, there were no reporters with annoying cameras, or extras and support staff milling around. (Well, maybe the reporters were killed years ago when all the lawyers were killed. :)) Anyway the scene seemed too bland.[_]The idea of some people being xenophobic seemed good. I liked Phlox’s puffing up :)[_]The bar in Trouble with Tribbles had more character than the bar in this episode. I guess they spent too much time on T’Pol’s place.[_]I loved seeing the new starship with it’s design similar to the TOS Enterprise.[_]I felt the turnabout with T’Pol to save her mother by marrying Koss was too soap opera-ish. I can see Trip’s confusion, thinking he’s just there as her date and looking at a long term relationship only to be confronted by her marriage. It felt logical to not hurt her more by making a hard decision harder. But T’Pol’s turnabout is unsupported.[_]Must have been winter when Trip visited Vulcan. He didn’t mention the heat once. :)[/ul]So now is it that T’Pol is married and we have Trip and T’Pol’s relationship complicated as they continue to build feelings for each other? [/li] Well, it’s still hard to see what Manny was left with and required to do. I suspect he was given “Home” and this next three-parter and after that maybe he can shine with his own ideas. (Here’s hoping) ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/56 "2004-10-25T22:49:21Z")
The last comment about Vulcan seasons reminded me of something that a lot of sci-fi fans (including me) are bad about doing and that is making a culture, species, or planet homogenous. I assume Vulcan’s a big planet (I always pictured it as larger than Earth) and even though Vulcans themselves are obviously descended from desert dwellers and built for the heat, I can’t imagine a space faring species as advanced as they are sticking only to the sand dunes. For example, humans are originally arboreal but then evolved further on the savannah and now live in the tropics, arctic, mountains, and everywhere else possible so I assume they’re the same. Unless T’Pol’s hometown was conveniently ShirKahr, the same as Spock’s, there’s no telling where they actually were. For all we know, they could have been at the poles. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/57 "2004-10-25T22:55:15Z")
Hey, I’m just happy they didn’t give Vulcan a moon! ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/58 "2004-10-25T23:02:45Z")
I don’t know… as much as I dislike her character and think her sex appeal is overrated, I wouldn’t mind seeing T’Pol’s moon. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/59 "2004-10-25T23:37:50Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > You would be surprised how many intelligent people get that wrong. Yeah, that pisses me off almost as much as a rifle needing air to fire. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518/60 "2004-10-26T00:29:44Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > I don’t know… as much as I dislike her character and think her sex appeal is overrated, I wouldn’t mind seeing T’Pol’s moon. Considering how skinny she is, it would probably look like a crescent. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-home-spoilers/270518.md?page=4)