# Enterprise: Horizon spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 16, 2003, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992 "2003-04-16T01:37:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/221 "2003-04-23T01:49:04Z")
Well, _I’ve_ got a DNFTT floppy hat that I won on these boards. A Native American tribe got half of my latinum today, but Mom got some of theirs. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/222 "2003-04-23T01:51:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tracer \* > \*\*SNIP > > Unfortunately for Soren, she gets the hots for Riker and comes out of the closet in the most thinly-disguised piece of gay rights activism ever to hit the _Star Trek_ universe. \*\* * * * You mean, except for ENT’s “Stigma” ? ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/223 "2003-04-23T01:53:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Aesiron \* > \*\*So it’s 3:30am over here in the Eastern Time Zone and being both bored and obsessive compulsive, I decided to check out how many times the chief Enterprise posters have posted in Enterprise episode threads. Sure… it sounds scary (and it is, I guess) but it only took me about twenty minutes to figure it out and here’re the totals. > > The first number’s how many times we’ve posted in these threads, the second is our total post count, and the percentage is the amount of our post count that Enterprise takes up. > **Aesiron** : 241/881 : 27% > > **Archernar** : 50/3249 : 2% > > **Carnivorousplant** : 436/4953 : 9% > > **Cervaise** : 50/3531 : 1% > > **Kn\*ckers** : 167/1182 : 14% > > **NoCluBoy** : 381/3078 : 12% > > **Tars Tarkas** : 216/3444 : 6% > > **Tracer** : 54/11206 : .5% > > **Vivalostwages** : 320/2419 : 13% > > **Wearia** : 53/704 : 8% > I need a life. \*\* * * * This _is_your life, son. And I’m impressed. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/224 "2003-04-23T05:25:25Z")
I wrote: > [@](#): > > Unfortunately for Soren, she gets the hots for Riker and comes out of the closet in the most thinly-disguised piece of gay rights activism ever to hit the _Star Trek_ universe. To which **vivalostwages** replied: > [@](#): > > You mean, except for ENT’s “Stigma” ? Er, okay, let me rephrase my statement: Unfortunately for Soren, she gets the hots for Riker and comes out of the closet in the most thinly-disguised piece of gay rights activism **that didn’t throw an AIDS parallel into the picture** ever to hit the _Star Trek_ universe. ---
**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/225 "2003-04-23T07:22:16Z")
I always hate that I come late to these parties. Unfortunately, I work wednesday nights, so I have to record and watch later. Sometimes (like this week), it’s worse. Our local UPN affiliate also pre-empts Enterprise for Suns games, so I can’t watch or record until the repeat. As for _Horizon_, I am not sure why people are worried about T’Pol eating with her fingers. It’s not as if they made it a big plot point in a previous episode or something… oh, wait. They did. Sigh. Even worse, if they had picked up on it, it could have been a cute moment. Just imagine: Archer hold up the bowl of popcorn for T’Pol. T’Pol looks at it, then gives Archer her pattented “you stupid, ignorant human” look. Archer then gives her a grin, then holds up a fork which T’pol takes and uses to munch the popcorn. At least _I_ think it would have been a cute moment, and not a slightly painful “let’s make obvious, awkward references to past shows/future ships” moment. YMMV. You are correct about “The Stigma” and “The Outcast” and the thinly disguised messages; but I think that both of them, painful as they were in their obviousness, have to be runners up in the painfully obvious message category to the TOS eppisode with the half black - half white aliens. I forget the name off the top of my head (geek race!). Maybe one of these days they’ll just name an episode “The Moral” and have a little truth in naming. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/226 "2003-04-23T07:30:50Z")
Ah. So that’s what the big hullabaloo was about with her eating with her fingers. I was wondering why everyone was commenting on it but wasn’t going to ask and look like a **NoClueBoy**. I really, really wanted to see this episode. Damn leukemia! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/227 "2003-04-23T12:08:55Z")
I thought it had something to do with chastising Phlox; part of socila interaction, or whatever Archer called it. ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/228 "2003-04-23T13:04:28Z")
That fork thing WOULD be cute, **Linus**. I only wish the writers had the cleverness to think of something like that. Silly buggers. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/229 "2003-04-23T15:57:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Linus Van Pelt \* > **You are correct about “The Stigma” and “The Outcast” and the thinly disguised messages; but I think that both of them, painful as they were in their obviousness, have to be runners up in the painfully obvious message category to the TOS eppisode with the half black - half white aliens. I forget the name off the top of my head (geek race!).** You mean you don’t remember? C’mon! It was titled “Let This Be Your Last Battlefield” and starred Frank “Riddler” Gorshin. I mean, duh. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/230 "2003-08-08T03:16:13Z")
Threads that go bump in the (summer) night. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/231 "2003-08-08T05:51:10Z")
I saw “Let That be Your Last Battlefield” a week or two ago. Kirk was really laying into the dude that stole the shuttle. He must’ve been PMSing. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/232 "2003-08-08T12:10:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Aesiron \* > \*\*He must’ve been PMSing. \*\* Nah, Shatner was just able to remember his lines. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/233 "2003-08-08T13:57:41Z")
Either that, or the shuttle thief had used a phaser-cutting phaser. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/234 "2003-08-08T14:07:59Z")
[musical sting] ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/235 "2003-08-08T14:17:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tracer \* > \*\* the shuttle thief \*\* Would need a bicycle chain cutting phaser, would he not? ---
**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/236 "2003-08-08T14:35:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \* > \*\*Threads that go bump in the (summer) night. \*\* Summer nights… hmmm. Song time! Summer threadin’ - rehashing the past Star Trek Dopers, havin’ a blast Found a show we wanted to see But the plots were as lame as can be Summer days, drifting away While we hope they can get it right (Well-a well-a well-a uh) Tell me more tell me more Will the Panda still star? Will T’Pol be a whore Who’s in constant Pon Farr The producers got a brain cramp Found out risk makes their palms damp Though a good premise was found They took it and ran it aground Alien suns could be such fun If they would just get it right (Well-a well-a well-a uh) Tell me more tell me more Should I watch it tonight? Will Malcolm try to score? Will he get in a fight? Through the boring speaches we stayed Looking for the gems they have made Archer acted dumb as a rock 'Til his actions we had to mock To hope we’ll cling that they’ll get in the swing And get the series right (Woh woh woh) Tell me more tell me more Will the stories still drag? Will they use Daniels’ door When the plot hits a snag? We got friendly, our little band As the dumber plotlines we panned We got silly and in between Talked about the good bits we had seen It’s a treat when story threads meet And the scenes have an edge or some bite (Woh woh woh) Tell me more tell me more Is the show on the mend? Will it last five years more? Will they tie up loose ends? Through the cosmos Enterprise wends As established canon it bends We wonder where they’ll take it now And if they can save it somehow Trekers dream the next season will gleam The hope of those suummer niiiights ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/237 "2003-08-08T14:55:05Z")
With apologies to Simon and Garfunkle… \*Slow down, you move too fast You’ve got to make the series last The Panda’s in the Decon room Rubbin’ Tripp and feelin’ Hoshi Da da da da dah, feelin’ Hoshi Hey Suliban, what’s your rush T’Pol has got a lovely tush I know this ain’t no cable TV I just wanna see a naked Hoshi Da da da da dah, naked Hoshi No continuity in the way Daniel’s in the shuttle bay Captain Archer might be gay And everyone is feelin’ Hoshi \* ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/238 "2003-08-08T15:06:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally posted by tracer_ > > the shuttle thief > > \*\*Would need a bicycle chain cutting phaser, would he not? \*\* What? Why on Earth would you put a bicycle clain on a shuttle? What a ridiculous idea for a security device! Everyone knows you have to put a **shuttle** chain on a shuttle. Duh! (As a side issue: How many shuttle chains could a phaser-cutting phaser cut if a phaser-cutting phaser could cut shuttle chains?) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/239 "2003-08-08T15:26:13Z")
Fine tracer, rub it in. Some of us can’t afford shuttle chains. Did you ever try and buy one at the Mall? They just laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992/240 "2003-08-08T15:42:17Z")
Wait till you try to buy a shuttle chain-cutting phaser. Not only do they laugh, they laugh and then they have a burly security guard escord you off the premises. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-horizon-spoilers/168992.md?page=13)