# Enterprise - "Hoshi Effect" \[Spoilers\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 21, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968 "2005-01-21T20:48:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968/61 "2005-01-24T21:39:32Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> Where is a silicon-based virus supposed to **get** the silicon from?

If it was Jolene then maybe I could see where it could get it’s silicon.  
[sub]Somebody had to say it[/sub]

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968/62 "2005-01-24T21:55:56Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> Never mind where they get their **energy** from – in order for any kind of virus to do serious damage to its host, it’s got to be able to make lots and lots of copies of itself.
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> Where is a silicon-based virus supposed to **get** the silicon from, with which to build more of itself, if it’s inside a **carbon** -based human body? The human diet isn’t exactly rich in silicon compounds, ya know.

Inanimate objects nearby, possibly?

Or maybe my nanite theory? Looks like a virus, quacks like a virus, but in reality a bunch of tiny robots?

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968/63 "2005-01-25T04:40:51Z")

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> **[I Just Walked to the Mailbox and Back](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=298736)**
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> As detailed in this thread and mentioned ad nauseam since, I was hit by a car while walking to work and broke my left leg in three places on November 3rd of last year. I was in the hospital for a little over five days, one of which was spent in ICU,...

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968/64 "2005-01-25T04:43:02Z")

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:dubious:

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**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968/65 "2005-01-25T14:55:23Z")

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**NoClueboy** referenced your other thread because he was making us all aware of an imminent threat. A rod and three screws in your leg are just the beginning …

You Are Becoming Borg!

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**Author:** ![spiralscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@spiralscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spiralscratch)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2005, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968/66 "2005-01-26T05:08:02Z")

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Oh jeez, this looks bad:

[http://www.trektoday.com/news/250105\_05.shtml](http://www.trektoday.com/news/250105_05.shtml)

Before you click, wanna guess who’s writing it?

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2005, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968/67 "2005-01-26T05:16:37Z")

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Bergama.

Yep. Both of them.

☹ :mad: :dubious:

Way to kill a franchise, gentlemen.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2005, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968/68 "2005-01-26T07:21:52Z")

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> [@Corner Case](#):
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> **NoClueboy** referenced your other thread because he was making us all aware of an imminent threat. A rod and three screws in your leg are just the beginning …
> 
> You Are Becoming Borg!

Becoming? I already have my designation picked out. I can’t be a Romulan (well, I can, but pointy ears are expensive) but I had no choice with the borgification. Might as well make the best of it.

> [@spiralscratch](#):
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> [TrekToday - Frakes And Sirtis To Appear In 'Enterprise' Finale?](http://www.trektoday.com/news/250105_05.shtml)

Words fail me.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2005, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968/69 "2005-01-26T18:01:05Z")

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> [@spiralscratch](#):
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> [http://www.trektoday.com/news/250105\_05.shtml](http://www.trektoday.com/news/250105_05.shtml)

Maybe I was closer than I thought in my suppositions about the tensions between Berman and Paramount, because from this it seems that Berman is actively trying to kill the franchise by injecting a massive dose of industrial-grade stupid directly into its creative aorta.

Relevant _Firefly_ quote: “Somebody oughta put you down, dog.”

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**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2005, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968/70 "2005-01-26T18:18:43Z")

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**Viva** et al., who are the relevant people at Paramount/Star Trek/ etc. that we can email to point out how stupid and dangerous this kind of behaviour is?

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968/71 "2005-01-27T02:05:21Z")

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Well, there are several of them, and it most likely wouldn’t do any good, but here are some folks:

[dawn\_abel@paramount.com](mailto:dawn_abel@paramount.com)

[dawn\_ostroff@upn.com](mailto:dawn_ostroff@upn.com)

[craig\_wagner@paramount.com](mailto:craig_wagner@paramount.com)

[david\_stapf@paramount.com](mailto:david_stapf@paramount.com)

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That being said.....

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Over the past couple of years, the focus among the fan groups has been to keep the show on the air, and right now Leslie Moonves (head cheese at CBS) is the only one who can make the decision to keep ENT on or kill it.

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 All I know is that there are massive campaigns in progress among the fans to make sure there is a fifth, sixth and seventh season.

 I can post links if anybody wants 'em.
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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968/72 "2005-01-27T02:20:58Z")

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[http://www.saveenterprise.com/](http://www.saveenterprise.com/)

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968/73 "2005-01-27T05:21:20Z")

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Thanks.

And…

[www.enterpriseproject.org](http://www.enterpriseproject.org)

and

[www.enterprisefans.com](http://www.enterprisefans.com) (I wish they’d correct the dorky error in their main statement…)

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968/74 "2005-01-27T05:51:05Z")

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Hi guys.

[Got some news.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=299026)

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-hoshi-effect-spoilers/285968/75 "2005-01-27T05:56:42Z")

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Ah, crap. I’ve passed that thread a couple times today but never noticed you were the OP. If I had, I would’ve replied and linked to it for you instead of making you do it instead. Sorry, man.

You’re going to make an awesome dad.

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