# Enterprise is Weak **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 9, 2003, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632 "2003-01-09T23:57:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632/21 "2003-01-10T14:21:03Z")
Man, it’s like Revenge of the Enterprise Threads today. They’re everywhere. It’s scary. Well, yeah, **Enterprise** is kind of pathetic. But there’s plenty of nudity and vaseline and pandas, so I can’t really complain. It is a bit of a bummer that they have these clever ideas for each series, like “Let’s have a ship get whooshed off to the edge of the galaxy and try to find its way home,” and “Let’s go back in time to before Kirk and the boys and see how that-all got started,” and then it turns out all gagful and loserish. But what the hell - at least it passes the time. The way I look at it is, if you can’t forgive the continuity missteps, plot holes, poor writing, embarassing acting, sexual objectification, scientific errors and all around foolishness, don’t watch it. For my part, I find all those things kind of amusing, so it’s an entertaining diversion for me. Love you, love your shoes\* - Kn\*ckers \*Sorry, I have no _idea_ why I thought that would be a good closing line. I’m going mad. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632/22 "2003-01-10T14:29:22Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Kn_ckers \* > \*\* I’m going mad. \*\* Nice day for it. ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632/23 "2003-01-10T14:30:10Z")
**BMalion** : Wow, I heard it was a novel about a Union and Confederate soldier stuck on an island. I wonder why _Enemy Mine_ is the one everyone remembers. Do they really not call it Star Fleet? I’ll have to start watching more closely. Maybe I’ve just been hearing what I want to hear. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632/24 "2003-01-10T14:48:37Z")
Pretty sure, **Ach** , but I’ve been wrong before. Wasn’t there a legend about a Mesopotamian and a Sumerian stranded together on a desert island beyond the safe point of the Worl Ocean? And that story was based on a Raelian and a Pak Protector stuck on a primordial earth… ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632/25 "2003-01-10T15:01:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wang-Ka \* > \*\*For quite some time during the seventies, various networks tried to get another sci-fi franchise show off the ground. \*\* The who with the what huh? Battlestar Galactica Wonder Woman The Six Million Dollar Man The Bionic Woman Buck Rogers The Incredible Hulk The Night Stalker Logan’s Run The Man from Atlantis Mork & Mindy Space 1999 UFO ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632/26 "2003-01-10T16:23:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \* > \*\*Lamia, no Star Fleet yet in Enterprise. These are _supposed_ to be yahoos. \*\* Well, as I said, I don’t normally watch the show. But I think even in the absence of Starfleet there should reasonably have been _some_ sort of mandatory training in cultural sensitivity, if for no other reason than that the human crew is multiethnic. ---
**Author:** ![XPav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b77776/32.png) [@XPav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XPav)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632/27 "2003-01-10T18:39:28Z")
You know, having a show about a crew that was inexperienced and learned from their mistakes would be interestings. Instead we have a show about some unprofessional idiots with no common sense. The master of the Enterprise review is Samuel T Cogley: Even if you don’t watch the show, reading his reviews is worth is. [http://www.subspacebbs.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?&forumid=436](http://www.subspacebbs.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?&forumid=436) ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632/28 "2003-01-10T18:44:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Aesiron \* > \*\*Now I found out the hot chick (yeah, you heard me… Hoshi’s the hot one. T’Pol can jettison herself out of the nearest airlock for all I care) showed some skin! And I can’t find it on Google either! > > Aaugh! I’m a hormonal twenty year old male… you shouldn’t be teasing me like this! > \*\* A-ha! i have it on tape!! ::BLAM:: Guess he exploded from all them hormones… ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632/29 "2003-01-10T18:47:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \* > \*\*Pretty sure, **Ach** , but I’ve been wrong before. > > Wasn’t there a legend about a Mesopotamian and a Sumerian stranded together on a desert island beyond the safe point of the Worl Ocean? > > And that story was based on a Raelian and a Pak Protector stuck on a primordial earth… \*\* Damn witty Wilde, damn witty! 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632/30 "2003-01-10T23:14:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by stringy \* > \*\*Yahoos were the human-like creatures who lived with the horse-like creatures (not even going to _try_ to spell their name) in _Gulliver’s Travels_, weren’t they? > > SNIP \*\* * * * The Houyhnyms (close enough). Extra points to you, **stringy**. Well, I had good scripts in mind to write, but dang it, they’re not taking unsolicited submissions anymore. Is there anyone else here I can submit to? Did I just say that? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632/31 "2003-01-10T23:23:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \* > \*\* > > Is there anyone else here I can submit to? > > \*\* Heh, heh, heh, heh [get’s out crop and hand cuffs] OH, MAN! Great idea for a script! Be back soon… ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632/32 "2003-01-10T23:25:28Z")
I told you, stop writing that slash fan fic! Oh, wait a minute, that wasn’t you. You would have used a pseudonym. Maybe. 😉 All my clue are belong to you! ---
**Author:** ![raisinbread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@raisinbread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raisinbread)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632/33 "2003-01-10T23:54:59Z")
I was hoping for something along the lines of Brin’s Uplift series where the humans were the Vulcan’s bitch but still pulling crazy and outlandish stuff that constantly pushes the patience of their patrons. Of course after reading Startide Rising, I hated the Uplift series, but the whole idea _behind_ it is pretty cool. I just don’t see how this show is establishing any history with the major forces of the galaxy like the Klingons, Vulcans and Romulans when they’re always meeting up with some forehead of the week that doesn’t appear in any of the “future” episodes or serieseseses. It would be pretty cool if they visited Bajor and got involved, against the Vulcan’s will, with the Cardassians and Bajoran conflict or occupation then had their asses thoroughly trounced by the Cardassians with the Vulcans saying “I told you so”. Of course that would only be child psychology of telling someone “I was right” and making the child do it again to prove the adult wrong. Of course this would be four episodes instead of being wrapped up in forty minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2003, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632/34 "2003-01-11T05:12:54Z")
How much you want for that there tape, **Tars Tarkas**? Huh, huh? I’m going mad over here! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-is-weak/147632.md?page=1)