# Enterprise Judg(e)ment spoilers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 9, 2003, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467 "2003-04-09T02:19:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/81 "2003-04-10T18:22:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cervaise \*  
> \*\*…Yawn. Why even bother to watch?  
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Well, you don’t HAVE to watch it. Me, I watch it because it keeps me company, and gives me something silly to waste time on. Not because I expect brilliant drama or in-depth character study.

Plus, what the hell else have I got to do on Wednesday nights?

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/82 "2003-04-10T19:09:56Z")

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Next week it’s an Enterprise Event: Alien Tentacle Prison Rape!  
Thrill as Archer gets split in two by the prisoners of Rura Pente! With special guests Gary Coleman and the Bee Gees! Can Enterprise get their captain out before the eggs implanted in his colon hatch and devour him alive? Find out next week!

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/83 "2003-04-10T19:11:08Z")

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> _Originally posted by Cervaise_  
> **…Yawn. Why even bother to watch?**

Trek is an addiction. They lace the airwaves with K-White or something. I watched _Voyager_ for five seasons, I can surely make it through that many of _Enterprise_.

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**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/84 "2003-04-10T19:31:29Z")

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Wow, **Aes** - you’re totally hardcore, dude!  
I only made it through 2 or 3 seasons of Voyager before I let that orca drop off the radar.

But I’m feeling more patient with Enterprise. I’m prolly going to be in this one for the long haul.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/85 "2003-04-10T19:35:29Z")

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I would have made it through all seven if I hadn’t gotten a job during the last half of its run.

I tend to gradually lose interest in a show if I have to tape it. The urge to Fast Forward’s just too strong.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/86 "2003-04-10T21:22:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rue DeDay \*  
> \*\*Just like we’re not supposed to ask how you can just walk out of the dilithium mines and no one even notices. (Although the atmospere of the planet would keep people from just wondering around up there I figure.) \*\*

The atmosphere of the planet, an impediment?

Come on, this is _Star Trek_ – you should know better! All planets in the _Trek_ universe have nitrogen-oxygen atmospheres thick enough to be breatheable by humans. And they all rotate with an exactly 24-hour period, and they all have 1.0 G’s of surface gravity, and they all exist **somewhere** in the temperature range where liquid water can form. And they’ve all miraculously gone through an evolutionary history that produces pine trees and grass.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/87 "2003-04-10T21:51:22Z")

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No, just the planets they go to when on camera! behind the scenes they go to the cool worlds (like the ones the sheliak live on, or the one the budding guy is from, or where those fourlegged dudes Neelix was going to be ambassador of was from, or the Tholian homeworld).

either that, or them genetic seeder aliens also knew planetary manipulation.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/88 "2003-04-10T22:30:30Z")

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Lame, lame, lame and oh yes … LAME! Only the most unabashed Trekkie apologist would claim otherwise. I fully expected Archer to don a Preacher’s collar so he could look more natural delivering his lines. There only two things that keep this show going and that’s the excellent (for a TV series) special effects and the Vulcan’s catsuited bod. They should play to their strengths.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/89 "2003-04-10T22:33:52Z")

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Actually I find the “Vulcan’s catsuited bod” lame. This ain’t Baywatch.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/90 "2003-04-10T22:50:47Z")

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Or _is_ it?

Next week, on Enterprise - Archer takes an away team to make first contact with a species of large-breasted women who live on a world where the continents are so screwy that 90% of the planet’s surface is sandy beaches. Porthos gets eaten by a giant jellyfish.

Guest-starring David Hasselhoff as Chef.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/91 "2003-04-10T23:02:04Z")

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Have I said yet that I really didn’t like this episode?  
:dubious:

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/92 "2003-04-10T23:18:09Z")

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The jelly-fish part sounds good…

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/93 "2003-04-10T23:29:06Z")

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Mmmm… jelly fish…  
You know, they should’ve aired an old _Batman_. But dubbed in Korean. With the wrong subtitles. Backwards. Would’ve been so cool…

Me fall down now.

Go **Boom!**

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/94 "2003-04-11T00:10:31Z")

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Okay, so I’m one of the only ones who liked this episode. That’s fine. But could people please be a little more open-minded? Just because you didn’t like it doesn’t mean that anyone who did is deceiving themselves.

A character can’t say what they believe in without being called preachy. Whatever.

It’s my personal opinion that the entire television run of _TOS_ is something best laughed at in a sort of “What were we thinking?” way, and then categorically ignored. But if you liked it, I’m not going to criticize you.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/95 "2003-04-11T00:10:55Z")

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that would make more sense than many normal Batman episodes.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/96 "2003-04-11T00:43:44Z")

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Achernar, you were dong great till that TOS crack…

🙂

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/97 "2003-04-11T00:59:47Z")

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Hey, I figured there were probably still a few people I hadn’t pissed off at that point, so I had to do something. 🙂

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/98 "2003-04-11T02:14:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Achernar \*  
> **Just because you didn’t like it doesn’t mean that anyone who did is deceiving themselves.**

Just keep telling yourself that.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/99 "2003-04-11T02:17:36Z")

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Wesley lover.

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**Author:** ![Zap\_Rowsdower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3da27b/32.png) [@Zap\_Rowsdower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zap_Rowsdower)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-judg-e-ment-spoilers/167467/100 "2003-04-11T02:50:45Z")

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The best part about the episode is that even though the Klingons were seen as technologically superior to humans, it turned out that it was the simple, humble virus that brought them down and allowed Archer to escape.

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