# Enterprise Kir'Shara Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 3, 2004, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965 "2004-12-03T21:47:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/121 "2004-12-10T17:39:04Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > _Jurassic Park_ is a good example. The science fiction part is being able to obtain dinosaur DNA and clone them. Amusment parks, taking care of big dangerous animals, etc. exists. (sputtering) Okay, maybe that was a bad example. I’ll get back to you when I get a good one but rest assured that I stand by my belief that science fiction usually NEEDS to lean more on the fiction than the science just to have a good story. > [@Ethilrist](#): > > There’s a serious argument the entire series takes place within one solar system. But there is also the argument that Joss glosses over some of that because it could get in the way of the story. Space travel is just a dramatic device to get them to new situations, like “Rawhide” wasn’t really a history of the cattle drives. My problem with the various “Treks” is that they too often use McGuffin science to get them out of situations, in a deus ex machina manner, rather than simply to get them into the situations. Having Trip reconfigure the warp signature to look more Klingon was a cheap device but I suppose it beat us watching six months of negotiations with the Klingon High Council. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/122 "2004-12-10T18:09:23Z")
I hate the 1940s ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/123 "2004-12-10T18:30:56Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > I hate the 1940s The “Andy Hardy” series, the “Blondie” series, the “Thin Man” series, the “Maltese Falcon”, the “Glass Key”, WWII, etc., etc. What’s not to like? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/124 "2004-12-10T18:36:26Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > I hate the 1940s They always speak very highly of you. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/125 "2004-12-10T18:57:43Z")
> [@Corner Case](#): > > The “Andy Hardy” series, the “Blondie” series, the “Thin Man” series, the “Maltese Falcon”, the “Glass Key”, WWII, etc., etc. What’s not to like? It’s a coded message to the Professor. Phase 2 of Plan 9 will now be implemented. ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/126 "2004-12-13T17:22:32Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > It’s a coded message to the Professor. > > Phase 2 of Plan 9 will now be implemented. “What happened in Phase One?” “Phase One wasn’t … entirely successful.” “You stupid, stupid man.” Manny wouldn’t have to raise the dead if Bergama hadn’t killed them in Phase 1. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/127 "2004-12-13T18:03:32Z")
I got the DVD Saturday, **cplant** , but haven’t had a chance to watch it yet since I also got my three netflix DVDs then too and try to watch those ASAP. Will probably make a night of it later tonight. And I watched yours already, **Linus**. Thanks. They don’t mean anything to me, **viva** , I swear. You and our cogenitor are still the only ones for me. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/128 "2004-12-13T18:04:30Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > They don’t mean anything to me, **viva** , I swear. Good gad, I hope not. ---
**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/129 "2004-12-13T18:41:39Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > They don’t mean anything to me, **viva** , I swear. You and our cogenitor are still the only ones for me. Sniff. Sniff. You only **pretended** to love me for my DVD burner. ---
**Author:** ![spiralscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@spiralscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spiralscratch)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/130 "2004-12-14T06:53:44Z")
Anyone catch the “Happy Holidays from Star Trek:Enterprise” spot that’s been running during the show? Hoshi and Mayweather weren’t even in it. It’s bad enough that they get no show time, but jeez, at least let them stand in the back during the promo spots. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/131 "2004-12-14T10:54:25Z")
☹ ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/132 "2004-12-14T16:18:02Z")
Maybe someone else will feel sorry for Hoshi and her reduced exposure and put together the All Bikinis All the Time! romp we’ve been dreaming of. 🙂 BTW, are T’pol’s boobs smaller since she joined Starfleet? Her uniforms aren’t that much looser but she seems less over-inflated. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/133 "2004-12-14T16:28:16Z")
Has T’Pol actually joined Starfleet? I don’t recall her wearing a uniform, but then again, she hasn’t gone through basic or anything. If Hoshi resigns her commission, can she start wearing velour jumpsuits? That’d be cool. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/134 "2004-12-14T17:04:58Z")
I could swear Archer cited it as an example of how she had cut her ties with the High Council but I could be wrong. But the discussion was about her boobs, not that! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![vd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b19c9b/32.png) [@vd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vd)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/135 "2004-12-14T17:29:14Z")
> [@spiralscratch](#): > > Anyone catch the “Happy Holidays from Star Trek:Enterprise” spot that’s been running during the show? Hoshi and Mayweather weren’t even in it. > > It’s bad enough that they get no show time, but jeez, at least let them stand in the back during the promo spots. They probably just weren’t on set the day they did those shots, which would be a symptom of their no show time, not an extension. ---
**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/136 "2004-12-14T19:31:14Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I could swear Archer cited it as an example of how she had cut her ties with the High Council but I could be wrong. But the discussion was about her boobs, not that! 😉 My guess is that Blalock has subscribed to to the insane notion still currently circulating in Hollywood that there’s no such thing as being too thin and somehow managed to take a few pounds off her already tiny frame. Compare recent pictures of her to those taken a few years back. Her face and neck are starting to look gaunt. Also, yes she definately joined Starfleet. In the “Borderland” episode, Archer compliments her on her commission (as a commander - check her “uniform” and you’ll see the three bars on her collar). There was some discussion in the episode thread as to whether or not that violated canon, but it turns out that the idea that Spock was the first Vulcan to serve in Starfleet was not estableshed canon. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/137 "2004-12-16T00:32:02Z")
Yay, \*\*viva \*\*still loves me. Or else she sent me the spiffy 2005 Enterprise calendar before she found out about my philandering ways. Whatever the case, thanks! 🙂 Hoshi! Yeah, she has a month… I checked. And she is \*\*\*so \*\*\*cute on the cover too. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/138 "2004-12-16T00:34:20Z")
…I just remembered she \*did \*send it before I came clean. So now I’m back to square one. ☹ It was just meaningless _oo-mox_! ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/139 "2004-12-16T00:41:03Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Hoshi! Yeah, she has a month… Oh, you mean **in the calendar!** Whew. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965/140 "2004-12-16T01:46:53Z")
At least you didn’t say she’s got periods. * * * I wonder if Our CogenitorBoy received his box of Gooey from me… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-kirshara-spoilers/277965.md?page=8)