# Enterprise: North Star Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 12, 2003, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753 "2003-11-12T03:08:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/21 "2003-11-13T02:19:09Z")
> [@](#): > > from _Corner Case_ > Were the original abductees given anal probes, and did the townsfolk carry on that tradition at the annual founders day picnic? I’m still wondering this even after seeing it – they just fail to address this issue. Although this could very well be the reason for the continued animosity between the hyoo-mans and the skags. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/22 "2003-11-13T02:20:54Z")
Ah… a phizzer cutting founder… ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/23 "2003-11-13T02:23:46Z")
> [@](#): > > from _NoClueBoy_ > The cinematography was outstanding. Was rather interesting – though when we had the slo-mo shot of Deputy Dicknose raising his pistol (just before shooting the school-marm), I was half expecting to see the next part in bullet-time. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/24 "2003-11-13T02:23:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \* > \*\* > Aren’t they overwhelmingly shocked to find outsiders since they haven’t seen any in many generations? -nope. > \*\* Yea > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \* > \*\* > Does the crew have a really fast tailor and leather goods, or do they steal clothing? - insufficient data- > \*\* Their tailor has a poetic license. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \* > \*\* > Couldn’t they land the shuttle inconspicuously outside town and reconnoiter, or did this happen after the townsfolk knew about the crew? -that scene is the climax- > \*\* They did. “I will meet you at the landing point. There is something I must do first”. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \* > \*\* > -pleny the elder died young- > \*\* I am ashamed to not understand your classical reference. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/25 "2003-11-13T02:26:45Z")
Did Deputy Dawg/Dicknose say “Fuck” when he saw the transporter? It is not in the closed captioning. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/26 "2003-11-13T02:26:52Z")
I misspelled Pliney ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/27 "2003-11-13T02:28:54Z")
**Archer** : Oh boy… **Trip** : Shall I scout aroun’, Cap’n? **Townsman** : Howdy strangers! **Archer** : They all sound like you do, Trip. Uncivilized… **Trip** : Shut the hell up, Cap’n sir! **T’Pol** : Perhaps we should keep a low profile **Archer** : What does Ziggy think I’m here to do? **Al** : There’s a 78% chance you’re here to save a school marm and shoot a bunch of assholes. **Archer** : Okay, I can do that. **Panda** : Why don’t I have any lines? **Trip** : Bug off, we’re busy. I don’ make out with Ol’ BigBoobPointyEars until next week. **Archer** : Why haven’t I leaped yet? ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/28 "2003-11-13T02:31:02Z")
Are there six-shooter-cutting six-shooters? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/29 "2003-11-13T02:38:58Z")
> [@](#): > > Did Deputy Dawg/Dicknose say “Fuck” when he saw the transporter? Well, it was _close_, but not clear – just replayed that scene. Sounded more like a half-grunt-half-word. Perhaps it was… Ffffrrghhhh! Or perhaps a slight variation on the spelling… ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/30 "2003-11-13T02:39:10Z")
\<\\> Things aren’t always what they seem. In answer to the **Case** \<\\> He used a Skag word: phock. Defined as: “Where the fuckin’ hell did they get a transporter, shit?” ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/31 "2003-11-13T03:04:11Z")
They really missed the boat by not giving Bethany [(the schoolmarm)](http://us.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0289830/Ss/0289830/TAKEN_SCIFI_00014-lowres.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Bergl,%20Emily) some serious Panda. They teased us with her unconscious bare torso in sick bay. ☹ She should’ve been dancing nude in the denoument. That girl is hot! ;j ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/32 "2003-11-13T03:20:28Z")
[Candygram. Landshark. Watchtower.](http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/episodes/detail/3394.html) ---
**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/33 "2003-11-13T03:21:12Z")
Well, that episode was surprisingly good! 🙂 And you know what? I’m just suspending disbelief now–I don’t want to know the answers to some things, especially the most obvious overlooks. I’ve just decided that it’s not going to really accomplish anything for me other than to give me a possible ulcer or just get me all riled up at “Bermaga” again. LOL My only complaints were that there are still some characters who just are not getting airtime at all (we all know who they are …); not enough Phlox, and -no- Porthos! Oh yeah, and since I probably won’t get to see any Tellarites for a while now, can we please bring back that nice Xindi Sloth?! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/34 "2003-11-13T04:05:48Z")
Wait a minute. This whole premise made NO SENSE! Earthlings were abducted 200-300 years ago and spirited off to this new planet. But their offspring would have progressed technologically during that time just like we did. They were the dominant species. Why haven’t they developed space flight? It’s earthlings on an earth-like planet, there development would be similar to ours. Unless I missed something. Did the aliens pick and choose the dumbest earthlings to kidnap? No, this was the worst yet. Is this show really aimed at adults? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/35 "2003-11-13T04:10:50Z")
A few thousand stage a slave revolt, destroy their master’s technology and you want them to develop space flight? They are busy staying alive. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/36 "2003-11-13T04:58:40Z")
Hmm. Sounded like “ffffghk!!!” to me. I vote it passes the smell test. He said the F-word. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/37 "2003-11-13T05:14:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > \*\*A few thousand stage a slave revolt, destroy their master’s technology and you want them to develop space flight? > They are busy staying alive. \*\* 6,000 people instead of 6,000,000,000 people. Assuming linearity, they’d only develop .0001% of the technology. (And I’m being generous by using early 21st centrur population stats.) Hey, this episide was GOOD! And when you consider how easy it would’ve been to have done another dumb western-themed Trek episode, that makes it even better. That was great when Reed shot T’Pol. After the horse episode, I’m more convinced than ever that T’Rip and T’Pol hook up eventually? One slight nitpick. If you’re sending T’Pol down to mingle with 19th century types, give her a **wig with long hair.** It not only can cover her elf ears, but **no women had short hair then.** Duh!!! ---
**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/38 "2003-11-13T05:19:50Z")
Good episode to spite the many many plot holes. It got me thinking though, in Twilight, all the humans get wiped out but a select few. Does that mean in the alternate history they never ran into the westerners? I enjoyed Reid shooting T’pol. Very un-Starfleet of him. Shoot out was cool, especially Archer charging over the banister and shooting the ground out from under that guy. Thats right, western-saloon-backdrop cutting phasers. $2.99 for 100g! ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/39 "2003-11-13T05:20:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \* > \*\*Ah… a phizzer cutting founder… \*\* Boooooooo! ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753/40 "2003-11-13T05:22:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by John Mace \* > **That was great when Reed shot T’Pol.** _SHOOT THE HOSTAGE!_ Take her out of the equation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-north-star-spoilers/212753.md?page=3)