# Enterprise Precious Cargo Spoiler **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 11, 2002, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910 "2002-12-11T01:58:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/101 "2003-03-21T06:54:33Z")
Possibly. When reading books about the episodes and movies, you often see that writers will crank out a ton of episodes for a specific character if they feel it’s being too neglected or if someone like Seven or Ezri is added to the crew. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/102 "2003-03-21T06:55:41Z")
He could do a Neelix style “Moral Show.” I really hated that character. Except in that one ep where Tuvok’s brain was zapped. “Sundaes.” “What?” “It seems to me, he could’ve also survived by eating the Sundays/aes.” “Not very logical, is it, Mr Vulcan?” ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/103 "2003-03-21T06:56:36Z")
Well, they either need to give Mayweather a good and permanent death and sendoff, or else develop him–‘cause all we know right now is that he’s got parents, a sister, grew up a space boomer, and, uh…I don’t know what else. That’s just it…I could go on for paragraphs about any of the others, but not ol’ Travis. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/104 "2003-03-21T06:57:42Z")
Just think of the poor characters on TOS not named Kirk, Spock, or McCoy. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/105 "2003-03-21T07:00:27Z")
True. There was more stuff about them in the movies…but that was years later. Are there going to be any more movies of any Trek incarnation? Ever? ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/106 "2003-03-21T07:04:52Z")
I have the Star Trek Encyclopedia… the entries for Uhura, Chekov, and Sulu are infinitesimal. Scotty’s might be pretty tiny too but I can’t remember. I’m hoping there’ll be a DS9 movie at some point. If nothing else, I think there’ll be a TV movie. If not, we shall have to storm Paramount. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/107 "2003-03-21T07:07:12Z")
My cousin keeps asking for DS9 movies too. You can partner with us and we’ll drive there and crash the gates together. It’s not more than an hour away! I have some sort of Tech Fleet Whatever Manual and it gives a lot more on those characters. Canon, canon, what is canon? Anyway, The Mayweather Problem has been on my mind this past season. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/108 "2003-03-21T07:09:15Z")
Must go for now and gather strength for tomorrow’s lesson of Researching Without Plagiarizing (Dammit!) 101 for the little darlings at Campus One. In the meantime, Drippin’ Trip Action is yet another band name–and I’ll have to write a song so we can all have an entry in the soon-to-be-published book. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/109 "2003-03-21T07:10:21Z")
It’s about three thousand miles away for me but for a DS9 movie? Sure! Le’me go grab my encylopedia. The entries are so small I can give you the canon facts on 'em without much trouble. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/110 "2003-03-21T07:12:23Z")
_Nemesis_ lackluster openers may have killed the movies for a while, according to my private sources. A radically new and exciting story would have to submitted to have the mearest possibility of Paramount even looking at it. I asked her, “What about that Trelane vs Q story?” She said, “There’s no great current desire for _any_ new movie ideas. I may be switching to a different series.” Then, I asked, “Do you still look good in cut offs?” She said, “NCB, you haven’t changed a bit. I’m married!” (That’s a paraphrase of a real converstaion, btw…) ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/111 "2003-03-21T07:28:37Z")
I decided to go with [startrek.com](http://startrek.com) instead. Much easier that way. 🙂 Chekov: Navigator on the original U.S.S. Enterprise; An only child; While attending Starfleet Academy his involvement with fellow cadet Irina Galliulin broke off when she dropped out of the service before graduation in disdain for its structure; Promoted to lieutenant when he was assigned as security chief aboard the refit U.S.S. Enterprise; Assigned to the U.S.S. Reliant in 2377; First officer to Captain Clark Terrell during the Genesis Project incident; Witness to Kirk’s apparent death at the christening of the newest U.S.S. Enterprise, the NCC-1701-B. [6 items of interest] Uhura: Communications officer aboard the Enterprise on one of its early five-year missions; Fluent in Swahili; Accomplished singer; Showed some romantic interest in Scotty, but it was never pursued; Had her memory wiped in 2267 by the space probe Nomad; Served at Starfleet Command on Earth after the reassignment of the original U.S.S. Enterprise to Starfleet Academy in 2284. [5 items of interest] Sulu: Served as helm officer on board the original U.S.S. Enterprise after an initial stint as an astrosciences physicist; Assumed command of the starship Excelsior in 2290; Was instrumental in saving the U.S.S. Enterprise from destruction by dissidents; Sponsored Chakotay for Starfleet Academy; An active hobbyist with interests including fencing, botany, hand guns, piloting, and the martial arts of his native culture; Has a daughter, Demora. [5 items of interest] Sad, eh? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/112 "2003-03-21T07:41:12Z")
Oh yeah, my Paramount source actually works on ENT. She used to work on TNG, DS-9, and one movie (_First Contact_) But, not being real high up, she may just be repeating gossip. However, _Nemesis_ didn’t bring in near as much cash as Paramount was hoping. ENT wouldn’t make good movie material. Not yet, anyyways. A total time tripping Billy Pilgram kind of show would be the best B&B could hope for at this point in series developement. Any ENT books out yet? (Any good?) ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/113 "2003-03-21T07:45:50Z")
There’re two, at least. A novelization of _Broken Bow_ and one titled _Surak’s Soul_ or something. I haven’t picked up either yet 'cause I’ve just now started watching the show. If done right, I seriously think a DS9 movie series could totally trash the Star Wars trilogies. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/114 "2003-03-21T07:54:26Z")
get rid of Kira and make Odo a little more believeable and you may have it. Sisco is awesome, Quark is perfect, but many of the other characters just bore me. (I’ve been watching reruns) Cardass ass ians: boring ridge nosed any one: boring alt uni: boring conflicts: well written war with Dominion: cool the DS-9 Station: mixed feelings. kind of boring, but it allows for some good character developement. those special ops StarFleet guys: now THAT is an awesome idea. They did it wrong, tho. A DS-9 movie with all the shit fixed could be as good as _STII:TWOK_ ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/115 "2003-03-21T08:05:50Z")
Kira would be a much cooler character if she were given her fiery spunk back. Once she mellowed out, she became just another character with no unique selling point. Keep Odo in the Gamma Quadrant. The Cardassians are my second favorite Trek villians behind the Rommies… they’re pretty similar when you get right down to it except the Spoonheads aren’t as sneaky or intelligent. So far as the alternate universe goes, I’m not so sure. Do you read the Trek novels? There’s a book by Diane Duane called _Dark Mirror_ that did it better although I really hate how people treat alternative timelines. It doesn’t make sense for one universe to have the same people in the same place but just with different attitudes. And I **really** hate how it’s such a small galaxy that even in the alternate universe, Worf, Garak, and others are still somehow a part of DS9. Bah! Just tweak it some more and it’d rule. Or better yet, somehow make it into the _Yesterday’s Enterprise_ Universe! The Dominion War was the coolest Trek storyline ever. DS9 itself is eh. I don’t have any special feelings for the station and I’d have no problem if they finally got a Starbase out there instead of a refurbished mining plant. Section 31 and Julian Bashir as their unwilling agent is the second coolest Trek storyline behind the Dominion War. It’d be better than the overrated. STII: TWOK. STIV: TVH is the best Trek movie there is. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/116 "2003-03-21T13:37:34Z")
Well of course _TVH_ is the best. They had Klingons _and_ whales. A DS-9 movie could be as good as TWOK, the _second_ best movie. Scotty: “Admiral! There be whales here!” Kirk: “What the hell are doing in Wales? I specifically told Sulu San Fransisco.” Spock: “Though located just 40 miles from London, the rocks which make up Stonehenge came from Wales. This leads to the question, ‘Did whales bring them?’ I think not, for whales are aquatic mammels and they would’ve had to travel some 200 miles over land. Illogical.” Viva: “Huh?” NCB: “Don’t worry about it. Just keep doing what you’re doing. A little more to the right. I always liked those kind of high heels, too. No no no no no, don’t take them off. Leave them on.” ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/117 "2003-03-21T14:01:55Z")
Oh, good, they’re showing _this_ one again. Cause I was afraid we weren’t going to have enough repeats this month. Starring The Annoying Bitch from Hell, and Trip’s underpants. I’ll let you decide which of those is MY favorite character. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/118 "2003-03-21T14:20:10Z")
Annoying bitch from…? “You remind me of the Prince of Wales. And believe me, when I say Wales, I mean whales.” -Karl Marx ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/119 "2003-03-21T14:59:15Z")
“You remind me of the babe.” “What babe?” “The babe with the power.” “What power” “The power of voodoo” “Who do?” “You do.” “Do what?” “Remind me of the babe.” This hijack brought to you by David Bowie’s really tight pants… ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910/120 "2003-03-21T19:05:36Z")
Suposedly there is an upcoming Mayweather episode, complete with Tubbs from Miami Vice. If he and Mayweather fight crime or not is yet to be determined. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-precious-cargo-spoiler/141910.md?page=7)