# Enterprise-Proving Ground spoilers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 21, 2004, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409 "2004-01-21T02:55:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/101 "2004-01-29T00:34:19Z")

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> The average budget for each episode of Enterprise in its first season was $3,500,000. Due to both the successes of the show and more creative technicalities required for further seasons, the budget was increased to $5,000,000 starting with the first episode of season two “Shockwave Part II”.

Whoa! No wonder they are in trouble!

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/102 "2004-01-29T02:49:23Z")

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[http://mahlia.d2.net.au/me/entandportraittattoos04.jpg](http://mahlia.d2.net.au/me/entandportraittattoos04.jpg)

:eek:

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/103 "2004-01-29T03:50:04Z")

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Tripp, Data, Reed, and NCC-1701D as a tattoo… hmmmm…

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**Tars** , where did you get that quote?

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**Author:** ![drewbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drewbert/32/15890_2.png) [@drewbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewbert)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/104 "2004-01-29T03:52:34Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> [http://mahlia.d2.net.au/me/entandportraittattoos04.jpg](http://mahlia.d2.net.au/me/entandportraittattoos04.jpg)
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> :eek:

The best part is, Data’s got a zit.

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**Author:** ![Catalyst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@Catalyst](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catalyst)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/105 "2004-01-29T05:21:23Z")

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Has anyone got a copy of the TNG episode “The Offspring”? One of Lal’s top five picks for a new body is an Andorian … a _green_ Andorian, if I recall correctly. Can anyone verify?

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/106 "2004-01-29T05:56:36Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> **Tars** , where did you get that quote?

[Imdb.com](http://Imdb.com) in the trivia under Enterprise.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/107 "2004-01-29T06:53:41Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> _Westwing_ and _Angel_

I’m still not clear on when the time change is supposed to take place.

I am lodging additional gripes with the maroons at UPN for not running a single damn promo during tonight’s rerun of “Twilight.” I know they’re waiting till Sunday to do it, but come on. New eps are coming and it’s a sweeps month!

**Aes** , I’m still working on filling your tape. Many reruns lately.

**LinuxVanPelt** : 😉 The things I send do not cut anything. They may, however, assist in dissolving things. Like the lining of the stomach.

**NCB** , thanks. I always yearned to be a rubber chicken. Or to drink one.  
Would it be really terrible if I were to use as a sig that line you threw in during the “how are you hung” thread–ya know, the one I said I wanted to steal for a sig?  
Do you 'member?  
Get it?

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/108 "2004-01-29T06:59:51Z")

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Now that you mention it, **Catalyst** , I do remember that. It was specifically referred to as a female Andorian, so I guess originally the hues were gender specific?

Hm. Anyone belong to the Star Trek Communicator? Write in and ask them about it! By the way, is Star Trek: The Magazine still being produced? I haven’t seen one in forever and I used to pick them up evey month. I still have about thirty of them sitting in my nightside stand back home.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/109 "2004-01-29T07:01:53Z")

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Oh, yeah, no rush on the tape, **viva**. I understand.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/110 "2004-01-29T07:03:14Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> Now that you mention it, **Catalyst** , I do remember that. It was specifically referred to as a female Andorian, so I guess originally the hues were gender specific?
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> Hm. Anyone belong to the Star Trek Communicator? Write in and ask them about it! By the way, is Star Trek: The Magazine still being produced? I haven’t seen one in forever and I used to pick them up evey month. I still have about thirty of them sitting in my nightside stand back home.

I don’t think the Mag is being produced anymore, though the Comm. is.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/111 "2004-01-29T07:07:45Z")

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Sorry if my posts today aren’t all that coherent. Pilates takes its toll till you get used to it.

Speaking of Pilate(s)… **Cervaise** , were you serious about seeing **The Passion of the Christ**? I thought I saw that in another thread.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/112 "2004-01-29T07:08:12Z")

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That really sucks. It was always interesting wheras the Communicator has never been. Kind of like how Enterprise is going to be cancelled and Voyager lasted seven years.

Hmm…

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/113 "2004-01-29T07:11:05Z")

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…\*\*viva \*\* does yoga and pilates while the room is full of hotties so she’s checking out their bodies and you know she’s satisfied…

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/114 "2004-01-29T07:19:08Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> Speaking of Pilate(s)… **Cervaise** , were you serious about seeing **The Passion of the Christ**? I thought I saw that in another thread.

I don’t know about him, but i plan on seeing it here sometime.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/115 "2004-01-29T07:22:46Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> …\*\*viva \*\* does yoga and pilates while the room is full of hotties so she’s checking out their bodies and you know she’s satisfied…

I wish someone could make it so.  
There are very few guys in there: my instructor, who is a dance instuctor and choreographer; and a couple of old geezers. Mostly it’s gals. Word has it that most guys think Pilates is some easy, goofy thing or that the Reformers do all the work.  
I only glance at the others to see if I’m in the right position.

Go ahead, make jokes.

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/116 "2004-01-29T07:23:13Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> The things I send do not cut anything. They may, however, assist in dissolving things. Like the lining of the stomach.

And I thought you drank the good stuff.

Or did you get your hands on some of that “Andorian Ale”

[drunk Scotty]  
It’s… it’s green.  
[/drunk Scotty]

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/117 "2004-01-29T07:26:42Z")

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Did they steal that from the Romulans or was it the other way around?

Actually, Aes will have to fill his own glass and then consider the philosophy of it all. He’ll know what I’m talking about when it gets there.

I will confess to drinking many chai lattes from Starbucks lately. I get fixated on things for a while until the novelty wears off.

**Tars** : I hope you’ll issue a report on the movie, since I’ll be one of the first in line to skip it.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/118 "2004-01-29T07:41:16Z")

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[Lal as Andorian](http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/contimission/andorian-offspring.jpg)

from [here,](http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/otherfed1.htm)which has other aliens (and a female andorian from STTMP which i never knew about)  
I shall endeavor to report on the movie, as the controversy is the major reason why i want to see it.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/119 "2004-01-29T07:49:23Z")

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I posted this in the show yourself thread, so i figure i should put it here, too.

[It’s Me!!!](http://www.bjunkyard.com/pictures_editorials/030802/image11.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-proving-ground-spoilers/225409/120 "2004-01-29T07:50:37Z")

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Wow. Perverting jokes must not be as natural as riding a bike 'cause hard as I try, I can’t think of a good punchline to \*\*viva \*\* saying she’s getting into the right position. Just imagine this was a witty repartee.

Also, the Aramic Christ movie does not interest me. First, I am an atheist and honestly just don’t care. Secondly, I am lazy and do not like subtitles… yeah, I realize that might give \*\*Cervaise \*\* an aneurysm since that disqualifies many foreign movies but if I wanted to read, I’d’ve stayed home and read one of my hundreds of books instead.

And finally, TNG has aged baaadly. God, that Andorian looked horrid and I watched the Kevin Uxbridge episode (anyone remember the name of the episode?) a few days ago on TNN and the sets and costumes and acting and SFX… yeesh.

Still good storytelling though. More than TOS ever had\*.

\*Hehehe. Haven’t taken a cheapshot at TOS in a long time. That felt good.

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