# Enterprise Rajiin Spoilers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 1, 2003, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816 "2003-10-01T00:21:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2003, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/81 "2003-10-02T23:56:48Z")

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PJs?

Plo(meek) jobs?

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/82 "2003-10-03T00:05:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \*  
> \*\*Lord Greystoke…I don’t get it. \*\*

I think you mis-heard. Didn’t you watch that scene in T-Pol’s quarters? He must have been referring to Rajiin’s Foreplay Stroke.  
please don’t hurt me

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/83 "2003-10-03T01:24:23Z")

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Hello to **ChuckForbin** —hadn’t seen you around in a while.

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**Author:** ![SirRay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@SirRay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirRay)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/84 "2003-10-03T01:37:44Z")

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May I say one my one nitpick for this show before this thread disintegrates complete? (sorry I was late, had to tape it and watch it today)

Soooo, you have your basic ‘repel the boarding party’ fight, and several crewmen go down, either injured or dead. Then, you cut to a view of sickbay, where Pholx is discussing the Xindi corpse and it’s ‘suicide gland’ with the Captain, T’Pol, et al. During this scene the camera does a couple of cuts back and forth, and you see NO INJURED CREWMEN in sickbay, just several (very uncomfortable looking) empty beds. You’d think Phlox would at least have been investigating the crewman taken down by the glop bomb.

Even Voyager got this right, with some random extras filling sickbay’s beds (all two, plus the operating table) after battle scenes…

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/85 "2003-10-03T02:47:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> **Ah I had misread that as "I (KP) am jumping up and down on my puppy while eating Oreos™"**

Poor puppy.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/86 "2003-10-03T02:51:16Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Cervaise \*  
**[li]After forcibly docking (i.e. throwing across the grapples),**[/li][/QUOTE]

I just remembered something.

The NX-01 _Enterprise_’s Phase Cannon is on a swivelling turret mount, right? That’s what they showed us back in Season One. The Phase Cannon can fire in any direction, right?

So, when the Rogue Xindi ship is forcibly docked to the side of the _Enterprise_, why don’t they just point their Phase Cannon at it and blast the hell out of it? It’s not like they’re going to miss when their target is stuck in place to the side of the ship.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/87 "2003-10-03T03:07:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
> **The green glob on the wall that fires little nasties at the security guards was a clever device. Just throw it, then sit back and watch.**

Personally, I thought it was a rather useless weapon. It took nearly five seconds from the time they fired the snotball to the time the little energy darts came out. This was efective **only** because the Space Marines had never seen a Snot Shrapnel Weapon before. Next time they see it, they’re just going to say, “Ho hum, it’s that goo bomb again, we’ve got several whole seconds to get behind cover before it goes off. _Yawn._.”

There’s a reason modern shrapnel weapons go off on impact or burst in the air on their way toward the target.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/88 "2003-10-03T04:10:15Z")

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I occasionally have Snot Shrapnel on my shirt after blowing my nose with excessive zeal.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/89 "2003-10-03T06:37:03Z")

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## Thank you for sharing that with The Group. 😃

And now, in honor of **Kn\*ckers** , here is a little ENT Season 3 skit-lette (I haven’t done one in a while, and she loved them):

Those Zany Xindi

INT. XINDI CHAMBER

A bunch of Xindi sit around the table or roll around in the tank.

Xindi Sloth: We only have four hundred years. Are you guys moving on this weapon thing or what?

Xindi Insectoid: We’d better be careful. Those humans carry Raid.

Xindi Reptiloid: That’s not a problem for _me_.

Xindi Insectoid: Whose side are you on?

Xindi Humanoid: Is anyone else hungry? We could get take-out.

Xindi Aquatic #1: Is it getting warm in here?

## Xindi Aquatic #2: Sorry. I drank a lot of Xindi Coffee this morning and I just couldn’t hold it anymore.

INT. ENTERPRISE War Room

Reed and T’Pol watch Archer pace, frown, frown and pace.

ARCHER: I want to know what the deal is with these Xindi. I want to know where Chef is with my dinner. I want answers to all of these and my other questions and I want them right now!

T’POL: Are you speaking as the Unga Bunga Archer or as the real thing? I can no longer tell the difference.

REED (very softly): I wonder if we could modify one of our weapons to seal off his mouth.

MACOS burst in.

## MACO (any one will do): We heard that, sir. No problem! (They smile with glee at the thought)

INT. ENTERPRISE BRIDGE

Hoshi and Mayweather are handling things alone.

HOSHI: (yawning) There’s not much to do around here with nothing to translate but Xindi stuff. It’s mostly office humor, as far as I can tell. Won’t the Captain be pissed when he finds out we’re missing the really important 10% of the database?

MAYWEATHER: At least _you’ve_ got something to do. I just sit around here and sometimes acknowledge someone. I wish I could go on an away mission. I’d love to go help Reed in the armory. I’d work on an engine any time. I get tired of SickBay, though.

HOSHI: Sorry, did you say something? I wasn’t listening.

MAYWEATHER: Sighhhh…

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INT. SICKBAY

Phlox and Trip look at Porthos, who is on a biobed.

TRIP: Well, the Cap’n and I have kinda been on the outs ever since the Vissian thing, so he’s makin’ me clean up after his mutt n’ get him checked up on now n’ then.

PHLOX: There’s nothing wrong with Porthos that a small application of Ribotoxiflurifbutiraganian aloe won’t cure.

TRIP: _I’m_ the one who needs attention. The Cap’n doesn’t want to hang out with me anymore. I don’t sleep without T’Pol’s help, but he doesn’t even notice. I’m slavin’ over hot engines all day but do I ever get a “Thanks, Trip, I really appreciate you and I don’t ever take you for granted”? Nope.

PORTHOS: Grrrr…whine, whine…yelp! Arf! Woof!  
[translation: What the hell are _you_ bitching about? I have to live with the asshole and he doesn’t want to talk to me either.]

(continue)

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**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/90 "2003-10-03T12:35:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by tracer \*  
> \*\*Poor puppy. \*\*

Hey! A few things things:

A) I own a cat not a puppy  
B) He jumps on me and believe me he’s a fat bastard!  
C) I like Trek!

I just find it annoying that B&B are doing such a shoddy job with such a fertile premise. There have been some very praisworthy episodes (Dear Doctor being one of my favorites) but there have been quite a few clunkers and the changes in premise and look have the feeling of a desperation by a group who no longer have their finger on the pulse of the fan base.

At first they didn’t care because they complacently believed we’d always be there.

Now they are becoming desperate. What worked in the past Story Arc, battle scenes, sex. they forgot the main thing that kept the fans were fully fleshed out characters and good stories.

I know bitch bitch bitch… believe me it is only because I care.

Tell you what let’s see how the different series hold up? Anyone interested in doing review threads for selected episodes from Previous incarnations? Rate them as if they are first run and see if we find them to be equal to the current series or not.

Say we start with the first six episodes of TOS (Man Trap/ Charlie X/ Where No man has gone before/ the Naked time and The enemy within/Mudds Women)

Even those who do not like TOS at all should comment for fainess sake. Anyone interested?

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**Author:** ![Rue\_DeDay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/41988e/32.png) [@Rue\_DeDay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rue_DeDay)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/91 "2003-10-03T13:54:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by tracer \*  
> \*\*I just remembered something.
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> The NX-01 _Enterprise_’s Phase Cannon is on a swivelling turret mount, right? That’s what they showed us back in Season One. The Phase Cannon can fire in any direction, right?\*\*

The Cannon is swivelly, but it mounted under the saucer. So you can only shoot down and almost-straight. Since it pops out of it’s own hatch and drops down, you could probably shoot all the way around in a circle. Unless the cables get all tangled up. Then you have to shoot in a circle the other way to unwind them.

If the Xindi docked on the top of Enterprise, then they were safe. As long as there was no explosive decompression or Space Marines with Space Bazookas or stuff.

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**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/92 "2003-10-03T15:12:59Z")

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> _Originally posted by tracer_  
> **why don’t they just point their Phase Cannon at it and blast the hell out of it?**

You tend not to want to blow up something attached to your hull for fear of ripping a big 'ole hole in your hull. But it doesn’t mean the Xindi couldn’t have attached a mine to the _Enterprise_ and detonated it once they detached. Conversely, get a contingent of MACO to do the opposite during the firefight.

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**Author:** ![ChuckForbin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@ChuckForbin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChuckForbin)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/93 "2003-10-03T20:26:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
> \*\*Hello to **ChuckForbin** —hadn’t seen you around in a while. \*\*

Hi Viva.  
Thanks for the hello.

I don’t get out much, seeing as I’m in prison. In order to post I have to dictate everything I want to say to a sympathetic laundry maid outside the little chute they pass my food through. Then she goes home and submits my posts. Cost me my whole cigarette ration just to bounce back your shout out, but hey, I enjoy your virtual company.

Oh, and to keep on topic -

Another Fine Episode ™, and not just becuase there was no Wesley Crusher. Archer is really turning into one real bastard, stuff aliens into airlocks, shooting first and asking questions later. I Like It.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/94 "2003-10-03T21:14:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ChuckForbin \*  
> \*\*, stuff aliens into airlocks, shooting first and asking questions later. I Like It. \*\*

Not that I want to offend you, but shouldn’t you be a little more…pacifist while incarcerated?

-Tars Tarkas.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/95 "2003-10-03T21:35:38Z")

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Why do you have **Tars** ’ name in your post like it’s a .sig, **plant**? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/96 "2003-10-03T22:00:30Z")

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Shhh…!

Tars and Plant are the same person!

Different personalities, different jobs, looks, mairtal status, and place of residence, but the same person, nonetheless.

Don’t tell anybody…

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/97 "2003-10-03T23:31:49Z")

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Tars? Who’s that? The guy that insults those poor guys who are incarcerated?

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2003, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/98 "2003-10-04T00:59:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \*  
> \*\*Not that I want to offend you, but shouldn’t you be a little more…pacifist while incarcerated?
> 
> -Tars Tarkas. \*\*

I don’t remember making that post, since i was busy with work all day…

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2003, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/99 "2003-10-04T01:01:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Aesiron \*  
> \*\*Why do you have **Tars** ’ name in your post like it’s a .sig, **plant**? :dubious: \*\*

I DIDN’T make that post!

I smell foul things afoot! (and it ain’t MY feet!)

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2003, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/100 "2003-10-04T01:04:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> \*\*Tars and Plant are the same person!  
> \*\*

I see, all us green people look alike, is that it?

Thems fighting words!! I got me a phaser-cutting phaser that cuts through phasers faster than Hoshi loses her shirt! meet me on Ceti Alpha VI at noon in the center of town!

Kahn: THIS is Ceti Alpha V!!!  
Tars: Uh oh!  
Kahn: Put this in your ear…

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