# Enterprise Rajiin Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 1, 2003, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816 "2003-10-01T00:21:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/121 "2003-10-05T02:50:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \* > \*\*Did Rajiin do the bioscan of T’Pol because Vulcans are Earth’s allies and the Xindi might want to destroy anyone who might assist Earth? \*\* I don’t know but I’m wondering if she tricked the Xindi council by showing them Vulcan data. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/122 "2003-10-05T03:29:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jeff Olsen \* > \*\*f she tricked the Xindi council by showing them Vulcan data. \*\* [Koik] Boiman ain’t that, uh, you know, soittle. [/Koik] ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/123 "2003-10-05T04:05:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > \*\*[Koik] Boiman ain’t that, uh, you know, soittle. [/Koik] \*\* [Curly]Hmmmmmmph…Wise guy![/Curly] Five-Minute Enterprise is a riot. “Oog oog. Oog! Bad Caveman Archer!” ---
**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/124 "2003-10-05T08:05:54Z")
Back to the episode… Did anyone else think that it would end differently? I thought that, going along with the new, angrier, do whatever had to be done Archer, that during the firefight there would be a point where he would get a nice clear shot at Rajiin, hesitate for half a second believing that she was reluctant and her actions were forced, then you’d see his resolve firm as he shot and killed her. I’m not sure if that would have been better or not. But I’m fairly sure that the odds of it happening would have been much better if she was a funny looking alien guy rather than a hot alien babe. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/125 "2003-10-05T13:30:13Z")
There was a brief moment where that thought passed through my mind. [Mmm… Brains!] I foresee her reappearin late in the season to do something which helps the Humans. MARK MY WORDS! LUKE! OVER THERE! JOHN US OR DIE! Queer Eye for the Haggai. Ah, they’re c. 1500 B.C.E. style “death rays,” Moses What a Revelation. [all this is because **Linus** is a Biblical name] ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/126 "2003-10-05T18:19:07Z")
Hmmm, changing the promo words for the rerun? Is this some new thing? I just checked the TV Times (L.A. Times insert) to tape tonight’s rerun since they run it at either 7 or 8, and the blurb for “Rajiin” says: “Girl gleans information for her Xindi overlords.” That’s completely different from the one they ran last Wed. for the first-run; it said “Beautiful slave uses her mental powers on the crew.” ? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/127 "2003-10-05T19:54:53Z")
Glean I lkie that word. Very Biblical. G l e a n ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/128 "2003-10-05T20:07:05Z")
Most famously used in Shakespeare. King Claudius, in _Hamlet_, sends Rosencrantz and Guildenstern off to spend time with the melanchony prince and “glean what afflicts him.” ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/129 "2003-10-05T20:16:48Z")
[Today is my birthday!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=215576) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/130 "2003-10-05T20:25:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cervaise \* > \*\* Rosencrantz and Guildenstern \*\* And we all know what happens to them. 🙂 Perhams “gleaming” isn’t such a good idea… ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/131 "2003-10-06T01:19:37Z")
“…and if you want somebody to glean on, you can glean on me…” :rolleyes: NCB: You “lkie” that word? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/132 "2003-10-06T01:21:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > \*\* > Perhams “gleaming” isn’t such a good idea… \*\* Why not? The twilight does it very nicely in “The Star Spangled Banner” and gold and gemstones seem to do it very prettily. Or perhaps I am not gleaning the entirety of your message… ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/133 "2003-10-06T01:29:09Z")
Well, remember, this is the guy who spells Trip’s name with two p’s. I think he’s got Linda Tripp on the brain. God knows why. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/134 "2003-10-06T02:07:00Z")
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern gleaned, and they got whacked. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/135 "2003-10-06T02:08:06Z")
You Pakleds! It’s [glean!](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=glean) Not [gleam!](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gleam) You gonna eat that? [crunch] [munch munch munch] ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/136 "2003-10-06T02:17:40Z")
You Pakleds! It’s [glean!](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=glean) Not [gleam!](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gleam) You gonna eat that? [crunch] [munch munch munch] ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/137 "2003-10-06T02:19:31Z")
ah, they’re 1920s style “death Pakleds” ---
**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/138 "2003-10-06T03:48:49Z")
On further thought regarding an alternate ending, how about something like this (please keep in mind, I’m not a screenwriter): _During the firefight, Rajiin gets seperated from her “rescuers”. Archer catches up to her and stops her at gunpoint. Rajiin turns, and faces him calmly._ Rajiin: I’m not armed. Are you going to shoot me? Archer: If I have to. Rajin: I don’t want to do this, you know. Archer: Neither do I. _Rajiin tenses and starts to jump for the nearest exit and Archer pulls the trigger just as the ship shakes from an explosion, throwing off his aim._ Yet, the very end, in the Xindi counsel _is still the same_. She still defends the humans because she knows that they are doing what they feel that they have to do. It would also show that Archer is still a hard ass even when a hot babe is involved. What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/139 "2003-10-06T04:37:45Z")
Lame. They did the same thing with Data in “The Most Toys” except it was with a transporter instead of a ship under fire. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816/140 "2003-10-06T06:39:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cervaise \* > \*\*Most famously used in Shakespeare. King Claudius, in _Hamlet_, sends Rosencrantz and Guildenstern off to spend time with the melanchony prince and “glean what afflicts him.” \*\* Was that before, or was that after, the scene where Hamlet accidentally runs Polonius through with a phaser-cutting phaser? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-rajiin-spoilers/204816.md?page=8)