# Enterprise: Regeneration spoilers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 7, 2003, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562 "2003-05-07T01:36:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2003, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/41 "2003-05-07T23:35:21Z")

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Actually, a pachyderm is irrelevant.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2003, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/42 "2003-05-07T23:45:14Z")

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Your elephant is irrelevant

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/43 "2003-05-08T00:10:49Z")

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This opening sequence reminds of _The Thing_.

Both versions.

Especially when that one guy was looking in the microscope.

Surely that was on purpose.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/44 "2003-05-08T00:16:04Z")

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Hmmm… the Binars are referenced.

Odd line from Malcolm, “The research team was heavily armed.”

WTF?

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/45 "2003-05-08T00:36:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> \*\*Hmmm… the Binars are referenced.
> 
> Odd line from Malcolm, “The research team was heavily armed.”
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> WTF? \*\*

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They had multiple arms, yo.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/46 "2003-05-08T00:38:48Z")

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And legs.  
Your irrelevance is elephantine.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/47 "2003-05-08T00:40:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \*  
> \*\*Viva:
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> 1. No.
> 2. No.
> 3. “Sorry, we’re booked. You can apply next season. Leaping is futile.” \*\*

Thank you, **carni**. I am now satisfied. Sated. Satiated.  
For a while.

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**Author:** ![kasuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8c91f0/32.png) [@kasuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kasuo)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/48 "2003-05-08T00:43:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
> \*\*They had multiple arms, yo. \*\*

And were on a planet/ship that had problems with its gravity/gravity plating and inexplicably made their arms feel heavier.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/49 "2003-05-08T00:45:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
> \*\*They had multiple arms, yo. \*\*

Check with Tars Tarkas.  
Viva: I try and spread a little light where ever I go.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/50 "2003-05-08T00:47:42Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \*  
> \*\*Check with Tars Tarkas.  
> Viva: I try and spread a little light where ever I go. \*\*

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Since I am basking in the warmth of your afterglow, I will not even be my usual meanie self and proofread you. 🙂

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/51 "2003-05-08T00:51:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> \*\*This opening sequence reminds of _The Thing_.  
> \*\*

That struck me, too.  
They made a reference to _The Sand Pebbles_ with the new _Defiant_ on DS9 when Sisko said “Hello, Ship.” and the same movie alluded to when the Maquis guy makes a last stand while Sisko and company make their escape.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/52 "2003-05-08T00:56:19Z")

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Finally the transporter! And old style sliding controls!

Man, I really like Phlox.

Here ya go, Wire Head!

Quantum made a snap descision and it was a good one: Kill all the lawyers. I mean, Borg.

Nit: “we’ve only postponed the invasion. Until what? The 24th and a half thentury?” Sounds like B&B are trying to dispell the alternate timeline thingy. But, that was weak. Kudos for trying, though. I guess the info on the Borg was irrelevant and got lost in someone’s desk.

And I am most assuradly watching next week. _T’Pol Gone Wild_

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/53 "2003-05-08T01:03:54Z")

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The ending does explain why the Borg were as close as they were in _Silly Stupid But Introduced My Favorite Character (Q) Encounter At These Hippie Looking People In The Bandi City And The New Outpost Called Farpoint, Yo_. They had a head start.

How far had they spread from Delta Force, er Quadrant, by Ep 1 TNG?

Borg didn’t use transwarp until what ep of what series? What race did get it from?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/54 "2003-05-08T01:07:08Z")

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I should like to point out that Janeway had no problem defenestrating the Borg in Scorpion. She and Chakotay planned it AAMOF.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/55 "2003-05-08T01:08:25Z")

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Continuity is irrelevant. You will be discombobulated. Resistance is futile.

Of course, there’s really not much point in complaining about continuity and inconsistency now. It’s been long gone.

- I don’t remember no nanoprobes in Locutus.

- The Voyager crew supposedly met up (in their first hint-of-the-borg episode) with a crew of Alpha quadrant folks who had made their own little collective but had become free from the entire Borg collective and had settled on a nice little Delta quadrant planet… these were Alpha quadrant folks supposedly assimilated during the battle of Wolf 359. You know, by the cube that freakin’ **blew up** at the end of that TNG two-parter…?

**Next week… T’Panda!!!**

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/56 "2003-05-08T01:10:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> \*\*Borg didn’t use transwarp until what ep of what series? What race did get it from? \*\*

Don’t know what race, but first I remember seeing the transwarp bit was when the Borg showed up in that non-geometrically-correct ship in one of the TNG season finale cliffhangers, and Lore had taken over a group of the Borg.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/57 "2003-05-08T01:18:49Z")

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No probes in Locutus! That’s right! Bev just had to remove some neural shit.  
“Sleep, Data. Sleep.”

Well done, **Monstre**.

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/58 "2003-05-08T02:13:01Z")

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Locutus was not a regular Borg drone. Apparently, he was allowed to keep enough of his humanity to add something special to the hive, and this also allowed him to be rescued. In some special hosted by Jonathan Frakes, I remember him saying that when the away team came across Picard in “Best of Both Worlds”, they found he had been turned into “a half-human, half-Borg”, or something like that. Honestly, I think this is a bit of backpedaling, but it was done long ago. So it’s not like this episode changes anything.

I _love_ the little references to other _Star Trek_s that they put in. This week it was Reed saying, “We might as well have been firing holographic bullets.” I can definitely see this becoming farcical if it gets overused, though.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/59 "2003-05-08T02:17:34Z")

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Reed remarked to Phlox about “replacing a perfectly good arm…”  
How did he know it replaced a good arm?

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-regeneration-spoilers/173562/60 "2003-05-08T02:24:48Z")

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Don’t worry, Guv’ner!

'E’s 'armless!

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