# Enterprise Revamped **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 24, 2004, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941 "2004-10-24T21:51:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/21 "2004-10-26T01:48:19Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > So, no urethra-shoving, but not much else either. Well, like, _yeah_, but who ya gonna call? šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![cstamets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@cstamets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cstamets)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/22 "2004-10-26T03:13:49Z")
> [@lee](#): > > It is way better than what they have been using. I like the reading. It is like he is finding his place. I donā€™t want him as bold as Kirk. Archer shouldnā€™t be as bold as Kirk, but he should be more sure of himself and his mission. A little more confident. He did just save the entire human race, after all. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/23 "2004-10-26T03:19:30Z")
> [@cstamets](#): > > he should be more sure of himself and his mission. You want to know what the problem is here, pal? Iā€™ll tell you what it is. Archer has Quantum Leapt into Kirkā€™s body, and he doesnā€™t have a clue. ^:dubious:^ ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/24 "2004-10-26T03:20:38Z")
And why not? Archer, not Kirk, is the first human to explore strange new worlds and seek out new life and new civilizations. Heā€™s boldly gone where Kirk is going again. ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/25 "2004-10-26T03:43:04Z")
I liked it, my wife like it as well. I wasnā€™t put off by the voice over, didnā€™t Picard use a paraphrase of the same words? The montage needs more color, perhaps a flyby of Jupiter and Neptune, hell Mars would work too, and youā€™d get a kind of rememberance of the original theme, and I would have like some bolder brass. But it ddefinately outclasses the original theme. In my wife words ā€œwowā€ she was responding to the space dock scene, when the lights go on. > [@](#): > > One of my biggest gripes about Enterprise is how they encounter all these alien races that weā€™ve never seen in the other series, which just doesnā€™t make sense in context. I want true Origin stories, please. And the true conflicts and situations that cause the Directives to need to be developed. In one of the commercials leading up to Brent Spiner, I saw a green woman, so maybe, dare we hope? On review scratch Neptune, the rings would be reminiscent of Voyager. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/26 "2004-10-26T03:48:59Z")
Yes, the Orions are going to appear soon and this time, we get to see the males too, which Iā€™m more interested in anyway. I want to see if theyā€™re just green skinned humans too or somehow different. Thereā€™s a species on DS9 that I always assumed were Orions and Iā€™d like to see if I was right or not. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/27 "2004-10-26T11:37:32Z")
Orion slaver: [http://www.cinescape.com/0/Image.asp?this\_cat=TV&obj\_id=292439&aff\_id=0](http://www.cinescape.com/0/Image.asp?this_cat=TV&obj_id=292439&aff_id=0) I usually tune out for the intro, so I havenā€™t even noticed it changed. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/28 "2004-10-26T16:41:41Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Orion slaver: > [http://www.cinescape.com/0/Image.asp?this\_cat=TV&obj\_id=292439&aff\_id=0](http://www.cinescape.com/0/Image.asp?this_cat=TV&obj_id=292439&aff_id=0) Giant ladybugs are feasting on his brain! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/29 "2004-10-26T17:17:00Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Giant ladybugs are feasting on his brain! And his cheek is pierced with a roach clip. What a blend of 60ā€™s and current television! ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/30 "2004-10-26T17:32:12Z")
I was never that unhappy with ā€œFaith of the Heart,ā€ althoā€™ it is a bit too strident. But I liked the idea of that sequence, tracing the history of human exploration ā€“ seems very appropriate for what I hoped Enterprise would be (the origin story that **GuanoLad** seeks). While I like the new sequence, itā€™s not as interesting as Enterpriseā€™s current one; weā€™ve seen it many times before. I assume that Bakulaā€™s voiceover was just a test track and that if this were to go into production it would be re-recorded. That said, I thought it was pretty good. Picardā€™s sounded weird to me at first too, but I got used to it. ā€“Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![thwartme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@thwartme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thwartme)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/31 "2004-10-26T17:35:17Z")
Thanks for posting the link in the OP Aesiron. I hadnā€™t seen that. I very much like the idea of going with a more DS9/Voyager-type opening, but I donā€™t think the clip weā€™ve seen is the best they could do with that. I do like the concept of incorporating the images of Earth and the Enterprise in dock. It somehow conveys the concept of being at the start of the voyage. As for the voice-overā€¦ I donā€™t think itā€™s necessary. I agree with Vlad/Igor, it sounds wrong when anyone other than Kirk says those words (including Spock and Picard). Either write a new one or leave it out. thwartme ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/32 "2004-10-26T18:51:47Z")
Have they redesigned the ship too? Iā€™ve only seen a handful of episodes of _Enterprise,_ but I donā€™t recall the front of the nacelles being red-tipped like they are in that new montage. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/33 "2004-10-26T22:44:06Z")
Theyā€™ve always had the bussard ramscoops as far as I can remember. [Cite](http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=+site:www.startrek-journey.de+enterprise+nx). ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/34 "2004-10-26T23:00:06Z")
I didnā€™t really like the opening credits, but now that theyā€™ve had them so long, I say keep them. It would be one thing if they could get Jerry Goldsmith to compose a fabulous new theme for the show, but . . . eh . . . too late for that. ā˜¹ (Of course his son Joel might do okay . . . ) ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/35 "2004-10-27T03:36:53Z")
Alexander Courage could do a hip hop style opening credits to the beat of Queen/Bowieā€™s _Under Pressure_ All right, stop, Collaborate and listen Trek is back with a brand new mission Spaceā€¦ grabs a hold of me tightly Final frontier coming at you nightly Do we boldly go? ā€“ I donā€™t know Star light and my nacelles glow To the extreme I Star Trek like a vandal Light up the sky and wax Suliban like a candle If thereā€™s a problem, Iā€™ll be solvinā€™ Firing torps while the saucerā€™s revolvinā€™ On Enterprise prise baby Thatā€™s Enterprise prise baby ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941/36 "2004-10-27T05:06:38Z")
Iā€™m voting for **NoClueBoyā€™s** version! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-revamped/270941.md?page=1)