# Enterprise - season three overview

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 28, 2004, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495 "2004-09-28T15:20:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/21 "2004-10-01T00:48:04Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> And dropzone, forget the Klingons. ENT takes place during the same time frame as the Earth/Romulan Wars… they should focus on them, not the Turtleheads, Xindi, or Suliban, but if the rumors about the movie are true, they won’t and that annoys me greatly.(

You know, the proposed civil war on Vulcan would be a great time to introduce the Romulans. Kind of a fill the void kind of thing, pulling us into the conflict somehow.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/22 "2004-10-01T02:25:48Z")

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> [@Stuffy](#):
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> a great time to introduce the Romulans.

You can’t introduce the Romulans until the TOS episode _Balance of Terror_.  
They hadn’t been seen by Terrans.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/23 "2004-10-01T03:10:17Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> You can’t introduce the Romulans until the TOS episode _Balance of Terror_.  
> They hadn’t been seen by Terrans.

Actually, BOT established the much earlier introduction, the Romulan War. Of course, they must remain unseen, but killing humans was a pretty noticable introduction. 😉

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/24 "2004-10-01T03:29:51Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> Actually, BOT established the much earlier introduction, the Romulan War.

Agreed. I took “introduce” to be as visible characters with pointy ears or helmets if you can’t afford that much latex.

^:dubious:^

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**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/25 "2004-10-01T04:24:02Z")

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I was going to say they’d need some way of explaining why we never see their faces, but I assumed it was unneccesary in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/26 "2004-10-01T04:27:43Z")

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If they are going to be a part of the Vulcan Civil War, they could be shown as much as they wanted to show them… after all, no one’s going to know the difference between the two species.

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/27 "2004-10-01T07:43:12Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> I said _part_ of the reason.
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> The other part — the larger part, indeed — is the fun of the Wednesday night slash Thursday morning deconstruction threads (which would now be Fri/Sat, I guess), in which you play a major role.
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> It’s all about the socializing, really. 🙂

Agreed.

Sadly, the move to Friday night will hinder my participation, since on Friday nights our socializing usually involves going out with friends. I doubt my wife will be too pleased if I start skipping that to hang out with online friends.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/28 "2004-10-01T12:16:30Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> If they are going to be a part of the Vulcan Civil War, they could be shown as much as they wanted to show them… after all, no one’s going to know the difference between the two species.

Spock indicates they split of very long ago. “If, as I suspect they are realted to Vulcans” (not an exact quote).

He also says they were never seen during the War. Not their damn ears were never seen, they were never seen.

That aside, this series should cover the war with the Romulans.  
BTW, does the reference in BOT say the war was with the Federation or Earth?

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/29 "2004-10-01T12:27:37Z")

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I’m not sure if it’s cannon (of course, what is?) but in one of the books, it said that the Romulans left Vulcan 1,000 years before the Next Generation era. The left when the whole logic idea started sweeping the planet.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/30 "2004-10-01T12:32:18Z")

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I’m pretty sure that was in the last movie too, **Odin**. You know… _Nemesis_.

I would have to watch it again to be sure, though. _:::shudder:::_

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/31 "2004-10-01T18:25:07Z")

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> [@Linus Van Pelt](#):
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> Sadly, the move to Friday night will hinder my participation, since on Friday nights our socializing usually involves going out with friends.

TiVo baby! No time like the present. 🙂

Trust me. After a month you’ll wonder how you ever got along without it.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/32 "2004-10-01T18:29:56Z")

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> [@Linus Van Pelt](#):
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> Agreed.
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> Sadly, the move to Friday night will hinder my participation, since on Friday nights our socializing usually involves going out with friends. I doubt my wife will be too pleased if I start skipping that to hang out with online friends.

Can you catch the repeat, or tape it, on Saturday or Sunday night? It’s okay with us if you’re late. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/33 "2004-10-01T20:56:19Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> TiVo baby! No time like the present.

> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> Can you catch the repeat, or tape it, on Saturday or Sunday night? It’s okay with us if you’re late. 🙂

All of that time that I was working nights, that’s what I did. Unfortunately, by the time I was able to watch it, the bulk of the discussion was usually over and my contribution was often limited to the occasional parody, limerick, or bad joke. I had hoped, since I’m no longer working nights, that I would have been able to show up before the party was over and the dishes were being done (so to speak).

But it’s kind of you to want to include me anyway. I’ll try not to disturb too many people as I tiptoe in.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/34 "2004-10-01T22:11:55Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Spock indicates they split of very long ago. “If, as I suspect they are realted to Vulcans” (not an exact quote).
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> He also says they were never seen during the War. Not their damn ears were never seen, they were never seen.
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> That aside, this series should cover the war with the Romulans.  
> BTW, does the reference in BOT say the war was with the Federation or Earth?

It’s the Earth/Romulan Wars and I doubt very seriously that only after a thousand years, the Romulans would have evolved enough to be distinguishable from their Vulcan counterparts. Even after three millennia, the Japanese and Chinese still look pretty similar.

They could easily interfere with no one being the wiser.

And **Linus** , have you forgotten that I’ve been posting to the threads without seeing the episode until at least a week later for a year now? Like you actually have to see the episodes to post to the threads.

And I always knew you loved me as evidenced by your tacit agreement to **Cervaise** ’s comment that I’m part of the reason he’ll be coming back. 😃

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/35 "2004-10-01T22:27:35Z")

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Hell, I have yet to even see _one_ episode of _Enterprise_, and yet I still post!

Yeti Yeti Yeti Yeti Yeti…

_ **Yeti** _

Are Yeti purple?

;j

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/36 "2004-10-01T23:25:08Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> I doubt … the Romulans would have evolved enough to be distinguishable from their Vulcan counterparts.
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> They could easily interfere with no one being the wiser.

Pray give us an example, Oh You Who Would Defile Canon.

^:dubious:^

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/37 "2004-10-01T23:39:28Z")

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Saavik was half-Romulan.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/38 "2004-10-01T23:56:43Z")

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There was that kid in TNG’s _Drumhead_ who lied about his Rommie heritage. Grandfather, I believe.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/39 "2004-10-02T00:09:17Z")

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OK, how would Romulans “interfer” and be thought to be Vulcans?

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-season-three-overview/266495/40 "2004-10-02T00:11:49Z")

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Without knowing what interfer means, I couldn’t tell you how they could do it.

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