# Enterprise Spoilers-Strom Front

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 8, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137 "2004-10-08T02:01:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/41 "2004-10-11T06:02:21Z")

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Finally saw it. Not terribly dissappointed. Finally getting rid of the Teporal Cold War makes this mini arc worth it.

I liked the occupied New York City scenes, including the rampant racism and the mob tough guys with their casual approach to killing. Made it a little more real.

They didn’t adequately explain the cause of Daniel’s weird problem.

Quantum was able talk while transporting. Hmmm. Seems like we’ve discussed that before.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/42 "2004-10-11T06:03:53Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> Is it just me or does Silik appear to be made entirely out of Rice Krispy treats?

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POUR MILK ON HIM!

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/43 "2004-10-11T06:16:08Z")

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> [@Linus Van Pelt](#):
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> Don’t forget that they’re Nazi dogs, so they’d be the Dogs of War.

And if there is any doubt that these dogs were, in fact, Nazis, I hasten to remind y’all that they were **German** Shepherds. _(Coincidence?!)_

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**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/44 "2004-10-11T07:04:22Z")

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Well, I haven’t seen this episode yet, and I’m guessing I won’t till they start doing repeats. Ah well, better luck next week. The summer got me into the silly habit of not watching much tv. I guess I have to break it.

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**Author:** ![the\_Lady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@the\_Lady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_Lady)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/45 "2004-10-11T16:09:03Z")

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Yeah - it wasn’t as bad as I expected. I only yelled at the tv twice.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/46 "2004-10-11T16:21:44Z")

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> [@the Lady](#):
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> I only yelled at the tv twice.

When?

The click .45 and exploding dogs?  
🙂

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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/47 "2004-10-11T16:25:19Z")

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Well, I liked it. When the season ended last year, I groaned. “Oh shit! Nazis! Quantum on the Edge of Forever!” But it wasn’t bad. I’ll keep watching.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/48 "2004-10-11T21:09:13Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> Finally saw it. Not terribly dissappointed. Finally getting rid of the Teporal Cold War makes this mini arc worth it.
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> I liked the occupied New York City scenes, including the rampant racism and the mob tough guys with their casual approach to killing. Made it a little more real.
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> They didn’t adequately explain the cause of Daniel’s weird problem.
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> Quantum was able talk while transporting. Hmmm. Seems like we’ve discussed that before.

Didn’t both Saavik and Kirk yak while beaming in ST2 and/or ST6?  
Quantum was able talk? You able type? 😃

Pick pick pick

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/49 "2004-10-11T21:14:52Z")

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> [@yosemite](#):
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> Fujifilm, it says on the box.
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> Well, so far we’ve seen Archer without his shirt on. That’s not too hard on the eyes. (Say what you will about him, he looks good without his shirt . . . )

Call me when they show T’pol without her shirt.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/50 "2004-10-11T21:16:30Z")

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**Aes** , I’ll send tapes this week, some time. Maybe I should fill them up faster with a treacle-fix for you, like **Seventh Heaven**. You’d like that, wouldn’t you?

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/51 "2004-10-11T22:28:06Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> They didn’t adequately explain the cause of Daniel’s weird problem.

Different parts of his body were different ages – some super-geriatric, some infantile.

This was because it involved time. And stuff.

Surely that explains everything.

Oh, all right, ya big baby. He ran into some chronoton interference while bypassing the quantum phase-modulators in the soliton static warp shell plasma conduit mesons, thereby disrupting the subspace graviton polarity field. Happy?

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/52 "2004-10-11T22:44:55Z")

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Was that so hard, you pointy eared freak? ^:dubious:^

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/53 "2004-10-11T23:07:59Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> **Aes** , treacle

I hesitate to ask, but isn’t that Brit for “jam” or “jelly”?

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/54 "2004-10-11T23:44:26Z")

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Could be, but I was using it in the sense of “gooey,” “sappy,” “syrupy,” “saccharine” and more.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2004, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/55 "2004-10-12T01:22:29Z")

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Okay, I gave in to the social pressure, and I watched this Friday night. Didn’t check the Dope until today, though.

My opinion: _—yawn—_

Pretty much inert, all around. There wasn’t really anything in this episode that couldn’t have been done equally as well by virtually any other sci-fi show. In fact, I’d bet that if we on the Dope put our pointy heads together, we could have done a lot better.

As far as I’m concerned, _Enterprise_ at this level of quality is a placeholder. By that I mean, “the sci-fi show I watch because as a self-respecting geek I have to watch at least one sci-fi show, and if none of them is particularly good I’ll pick one more or less at random.”

Problem is, I know what the show _should_ be, how good it _could_ be, so it’s markedly more irritating to watch this mediocre effort than, say, _Stargate: Atlantis_, which is also pretty generic but which (for me) doesn’t have a lot to live up to. In a weird way, a C episode of _S:A_ is more entertaining for me than a C episode of _Ent_ because there’s nothing for it to be failing to live up to. (I didn’t watch _SG-1._ I started watching _S:A_ as a hedge against _Ent_ continuing to suck.)

Now _Lost_ is turning out to be pretty good, and we’ve got the resurrected _Battlestar Galactica_ coming in a couple of months. Bottom line? Not sure _Enterprise_ is gonna make the cut.

Still, I’ll give Coto at least a few weeks: long enough to dispense with the completely retarded cliffhanger he inherited from the Bermaga and had to figure out how to handle, and to establish a new direction for his own material. And the quicker it looks like he’s going to wrap up that unbelievably stupid “temporal cold war” thing, the better, and the more likely I am to hang around.

Oh, and for the record, the alien-Nazi makeup _ **BLOWS.** _

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2004, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/56 "2004-10-12T01:26:16Z")

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:::makes a quick phone call, just to be sure:::  
Yep. Hell has indeed frozen over.

Welcome back, felow Trek Doper!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/57 "2004-10-12T01:53:23Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> :::makes a quick phone call, just to be sure:::  
> Yep. Hell has indeed frozen over.

What did I miss?

And what’s the area code?

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2004, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/58 "2004-10-12T02:23:17Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> What did I miss?
> 
> And what’s the area code?

**Cerv** is back in ENT threads, and  
wait for it

666

of course

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2004, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/59 "2004-10-12T02:42:13Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> **Cerv** is back in ENT threads

S/He was gone?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2004, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/60 "2004-10-12T02:52:54Z")

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Technically, not. After the idiotic Nazi cliffhanger, following on a rather dull action-packed finale, I said I was hanging it up and wouldn’t be around for the fourth season.

Then, over the summer, two things happened: Manny Coto was promoted and said he’d be changing the show around some, and I realized how much I would miss these Trek threads.

So here I am. For the time being, anyway.

So love me while you can. 🙂

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