# Enterprise Spoilers-Strom Front **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 8, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137 "2004-10-08T02:01:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2004, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/81 "2004-10-12T16:59:43Z")
Or How I Stopped Worrying and Learned To Love the Reset Button. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2004, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/82 "2004-10-12T17:28:42Z")
> [@NE Texan](#): > > One, what’s with the “Aryan forever” pure-race Germans trusting these ET aliens that don’t even look human? Expediency. These are the same people who cooked up a rationale for concluding that the Japanese were Aryans and the Chinese/Koreans/etc were untermenschen. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2004, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/83 "2004-10-12T20:11:56Z")
> [@Corner Case](#): > > I felt the characters hadn’t changed Mayweather is completely different, but since he’s being rationed ten syllables of dialogue per episode, we won’t recognize it until season forty-seven. Oh, and Malcolm is now a woman. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2004, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/84 "2004-10-12T20:22:09Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Oh, and Malcolm is now a woman. Now? More like we just hadn’t known for sure til now. _But CAPTAIN! I wanna shoot someone. PUH-LEEEEZE!?_ ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2004, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/85 "2004-10-12T21:48:15Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Oh, and Malcolm is now a woman. That explains why Reed was so delighted when he shot T’Pol in Northstar. He wants Archer too. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2004, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/86 "2004-10-12T22:11:33Z")
You’ve really got to stop reading and writing all that slashy fan-fic. I was just rescued by an Aloe plant. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/87 "2004-10-13T01:49:43Z")
It was not Carnivorous, but it was full of GOO. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/88 "2004-10-13T02:05:40Z")
Don’t bogart that…whatever it is ya’ll are bogartin’. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/89 "2004-10-13T05:05:10Z")
I’d like to jump in with a theory about why Nazis seem to still be a major draw as the bad guys- not only in Trek, but many other series and movies: Hollywood made so many Nazi-themed films that the studios’ wardrobe warehouses are full of Nazi uniforms. They’re cheap and plentiful enough that something can be found that will fit anybody. Studios like to use things over; it saves money. How many times have you seen a backlot building in scenes from different films? Going back to Trek, I seem to remember that the city set in TOS “Miri” was the Mayberry set from the Andy Griffith show, with some dirt thrown in. One other thing: The battle map in the occupied White House showed an unrealistic line of advance for the Germans- the Appalachians in central PA, Maryland and Virginia without the Interstate road system would be very difficult to cross, and easy to defend. Well, at least I think so. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/90 "2004-10-13T05:25:22Z")
Mitch Hedberg is funny. He’s on Conan right now. ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/91 "2004-10-13T11:57:54Z")
Nazis are about the only people you can make villains without having some advocacy group jump on you and shout “INSENSTIVITY!” and sue your rear into oblivion. Hence, all the Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/92 "2004-10-13T12:09:31Z")
> [@The Mad Hermit](#): > > Virginia without the Interstate road system would be very difficult to cross, and easy to defend. Well, at least I think so. We lost it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![the\_Lady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@the\_Lady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_Lady)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/93 "2004-10-13T13:58:52Z")
I’m liking those theories on Nazis. After all, it’s so much nicer that just thinking that the writers and producers are, oh, I don’t know - lazy talentless hacks. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/94 "2004-10-13T14:23:18Z")
Indiana Jones: “NAZIs. I hate those guys.” The previous Doper\* was correct about TOS keeping the budget low by reusing sets and costumes. That’s why they so many Roman/Greek type things going on, too. The 60s saw a slew of movies aboutGrecoRoman themes. Same with the war movies, more about the ET than the PT it seems. What I think also makes NAZIs fair game is the pogroms they initiated. Yeah, a lot of countries go to war, happens all the time. NAZIs, though, they attemted genocide. Makes them the ultimate bad guys so far. Sure, we can look bacl now and see what was happening in the Far East and in the Soviet states, but the knowledge was not widespread as it was happening. Hell, not really that well known by the general public even today. So, just like every early Western painted the red man as evil savages, most post WWII war movies colour the evil NAZI with a large brush. \ ***The Mad Hermit** :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/95 "2004-10-13T14:27:26Z")
One other thing I just thought of… NAZIs were leaping forward technologically. Guided missles, jet and rocket planes, ICBMs, etc… So maybe they would be really eager to jump on any new tech they could use. Var ist FUN! ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/96 "2004-10-13T15:47:28Z")
> [@drewbert](#): > > [sub]Pinch hitting for Pedro Borbon… Mannnnyyyy… Coto coto coto coto…[/sub] You have made a wise decision to quote the movie _Airplane!_ in a thread dealing with the sequel to the _Enterprise_ season 3 finale, Grasshopper. Because the movie that _Airplane!_ was based on was titled … … wait for it … … _Zero Hour!_ . ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/97 "2004-10-13T15:49:55Z")
Zeros!? Over Macho Grande? ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/98 "2004-10-13T15:54:21Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > There is also the alternate dimension on _Mirror, Mirror_. That would explain the discrepancies between classic _Star Trek_ and _ST: Enterprise_. The future successor to the NX-01 is going to be the I.S.S. Enterprise, not the U.S.S. Enterprise. Just as soon as T’Pol convinces the Vulcan High Command that goatees are the In Thing. ---
**Author:** ![vd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b19c9b/32.png) [@vd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vd)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/99 "2004-10-13T16:36:06Z")
> [@tracer](#): > > Just as soon as T’Pol convinces the Vulcan High Command that goatees are the In Thing. T’Pol in a goatee? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137/100 "2004-10-13T17:14:18Z")
> [@vd](#): > > T’Pol in a goatee? He’s been reading _Maxim_ again. ^:dubious:^ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-strom-front/268137.md?page=6)