# Enterprise SPOILERS! - The Forge

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-the-forge/275748>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 19, 2004, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-the-forge/275748 "2004-11-19T23:32:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
**Page:** 6

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-the-forge/275748/101 "2004-12-01T04:56:55Z")

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> [@moriah](#):
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> ## **Speculations:**
> 
> **NoClueBoy** , **carnivorousplant** , et al.: Can we please cut it with the references to Quantum Leap?

I only use the one, I have for over two years now, everyone knows this is my name for him, so… No.

But, thanks for asking! 🙂

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-the-forge/275748/102 "2004-12-01T05:11:50Z")

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At Television Without Pity, Archer is always referred to as “Quantum.”

Don’t stop, NCB! Keep it up!

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**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-the-forge/275748/103 "2004-12-01T06:24:26Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> At Television Without Pity, Archer is always referred to as “Quantum.”
> 
> Don’t stop, NCB! Keep it up!

Fine. From now on, in all Star Wars threads, I’m going to call Mace Windu ‘Shaft.’

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-the-forge/275748/104 "2004-12-01T06:31:05Z")

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Star _ **what** _?

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-the-forge/275748/105 "2004-12-01T08:03:26Z")

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> [@moriah](#):
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> Fine. From now on, in all Star Wars threads, I’m going to call Mace Windu ‘Shaft.’

I can dig it.

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**Author:** ![spiralscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@spiralscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spiralscratch)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-the-forge/275748/106 "2004-12-01T10:00:13Z")

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> [@moriah](#):
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> Fine. From now on, in all Star Wars threads, I’m going to call Mace Windu ‘Shaft.’

No, no, no.

Jules.

Otherwise, people may begin to believe that Richard Roundtree is, besides being the black private dick that’s a sex machine to all the chicks, a Jedi Master.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-the-forge/275748/107 "2004-12-01T13:10:14Z")

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> [@spiralscratch](#):
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> Richard Roundtree is, besides being the black private dick that’s a sex machine to all the chicks, a Jedi Master.

That’s the same guy? The detective song is better.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-the-forge/275748/108 "2004-12-01T13:40:46Z")

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[Mine](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=3153423&postcount=61) is even better.

> [@Aesiron](#):
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> Who’s the black Starfleet Cap’  
> That helped redraw the UFP’s map?  
> SISKO!  
> Ya damn right!
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> Who is the man that would risk his neck  
> For his brother man?  
> SISKO!  
> Can you dig it?
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> Who’s the cat that won’t cop out  
> When there’s danger all about?  
> SISKO!  
> Right On!
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> They say this cat Sisko is a bad mother  
> SHUT YOUR MOUTH!  
> I’m talkin’ 'bout Sisko.  
> THEN WE CAN DIG IT!
> 
> He’s a complicated man  
> But no one understands him but his woman  
> Ben Sisko!

While searching for that, I read some old threads from the halcyon days of 2003. While still fun, Trek threads just aren’t what they used to be. I blame **Kn\*ckers**.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-the-forge/275748/109 "2004-12-01T16:25:37Z")

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> [@spiralscratch](#):
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> Richard Roundtree is, besides being the black private dick that’s a sex machine to all the chicks, a Jedi Master.

But of course! The Jedi Mind Trick would come in mighty handy for convincing the chicks to go to bed with you in the first place.

Then again, the Jedi Mind Trick is [a total sham, just like all the other Jedi “powers.”](http://home.netcom.com/~rogermw/force_skeptics.html)

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-the-forge/275748/110 "2004-12-01T16:50:31Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> …I read some old threads from the halcyon days of 2003. While still fun, Trek threads just aren’t what they used to be. I blame **Kn\*ckers**.

I blame Manny & Co. The stories have gotten much better so rather than spending our time making fun of them, writing parodies and limericks, and riffing on life in general, we spend more time discussing the episodes. How dare they spoil our fun by producing quality television!

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-spoilers-the-forge/275748/111 "2004-12-01T23:45:29Z")

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I don’t have a TV or VCR so I’m still stuck in mocking mode while all the rest of you bastards are actually discussing the episodes in question.

So, again, I blame **Kn\*ckers**. And the rest of you too.

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