# Enterprise Storm Front 2 Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 15, 2004, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358 "2004-10-15T12:26:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/21 "2004-10-16T01:05:02Z")
That was in reply to **yosemite**. And be quiet about this being the last season. I’m still holding out hope and will blame you for jinxing it if I wind up being wrong. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/22 "2004-10-16T01:05:15Z")
No, it couldn’t be Vosk. Sillik was fighting him. SFG gave the Suliban their enhancements and orders, remember? Nekkid T’Pol next week? ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/23 "2004-10-16T01:06:32Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Wait, it’s only six over here. Do you get the same reversed temporal polarity feed that \*\*cplant \*\*does or something? Satellite dish. I get Boston’s UPN station. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/24 "2004-10-16T01:07:45Z")
Jinx is in Larry Niven’s Known Space. I’ll do the campaign again this year. I think we are going to have to. And with Manny on board, it will be worth it. I’m just in a foul mood tonight. Plans got canceled due to illnesses. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/25 "2004-10-16T01:11:07Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > So, in the Timeline Resetting that we saw, was that the Bad Timeline scrolling by? Or the Proper Trek Timeline? It was the “real” timeline, “ours” returning to normal. We’ll find some excuse for the Eugenics Wars and Kahn. The timeline did show some ancient stuff. Did operatives work in the Babylonian period according to some artwork I saw? Perhaps that was just Daniels reviewing the entire timeline. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/26 "2004-10-16T01:14:17Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > this our final season. Say what? > [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Never found out who Shadowy Future Guy was, though. Dick Cheney. ---
**Author:** ![drewbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drewbert/32/15890_2.png) [@drewbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewbert)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/27 "2004-10-16T01:21:59Z")
Wait… if the TCW never happened, that means that the Suliban never were given enhancements from the future. Which would explain why we’ve never heard of them in ‘future’ incarnations of Trek. But then does that mean that the first episode of Enterprise never happened? The one with the Suliban chasing the Klingon through the cornfield? [O’Brien] I hate temporal mechanics! [/O’Brien] ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/28 "2004-10-16T01:24:09Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Dick Cheney. No, I take it back. Future Guy is a sneaky bastard. Must be John Edwards. Laugh if you will. Ever seen them together at the same time? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/29 "2004-10-16T01:29:33Z")
> [@drewbert](#): > > But then does that mean that the first episode of Enterprise never happened? I think that’s why lesser writers ( I won’t name names, but the second letter of the alphabet comes to mind twice) use the Rest Button. They can close up the plot holes and paradoxes by flatly stating “It never happened”. I figure that Daniels has something to do with who remembers what and what really happened. The big question is: Daniels died. Does he remember dying? Does he know if we should be studying Torah all day, getting right with Jesus or giving money to the wearers of the Saffron robe? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/30 "2004-10-16T01:52:11Z")
> [@drewbert](#): > > I hate temporal mechanics! I don’t truck with temporal paint and body men. Daniel’s death was erased, too. That’s why he’s in the Timeline Reset scrolling. He was sent BACK… to the FUTURE!!! ---
**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/31 "2004-10-16T02:00:29Z")
I enjoyed it. We got some nice sfx and neato ship battles. I really had no clue what was happening for the first half hour though. I did quite enjoy the alternate timeline set up. Well, heres hoping the next season will be classic star trek creamy goodness. Or just a lot of T’Pol nudity. Either way, I’ll be watching. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/32 "2004-10-16T02:04:11Z")
I haven’t read one word of this thread. Gotta save it for post-viewing dessert. ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/33 "2004-10-16T02:07:10Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Things are looking up. > A rather straight forward adventure story with a standard plot twist, but it appears that we are done with the Temporal Cold War. > Death of a Major Characer, a nice scene between Trip and Archer. > Porthos doesn’t pee on anything. > > Enterprise fighting plasma cannon Junkers over New York is worth the price of admission. > > There is hope for Coto. > While the timeline is restored, there is no reset button; the characters remember what happened to them. I wonder if the Reset Button isn’t simply a device to avoid paradox. > Anyone who comments about “Avoiding a pair of ducks at Thanksgiving and eatting turkey” loses points. > > The fake newsreel of Hitler in NY is good, but one wonders what happened to the Jews in New York. Perhaps Alicia and her friends should have been Jewish. > Anyway, the Temporal Cold War is over. > Onward to the Romulan wars! > ^:dubious:^ NO!! NOT PORTHOS!! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/34 "2004-10-16T03:13:12Z")
> [@ouryL](#): > > NOT PORTHOS!! Porthos is alive and well. Calm yourself. Waiter! Bring me what he’s drinking. -Kn(\*)ckers ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/35 "2004-10-16T03:34:29Z")
Next season, said Braga, there will be a lot of continuity and “a lot of concepts and characters and villains that have been part of Star Trek over the years, but that haven’t been explored yet or haven’t been revisited in some way.” These include Vulcan history and the Eugenics Wars from the time of Khan. In addition, the Temporal Cold War will be resolved once and for all, and a character will get married and stay married. As for his own role, “I am not leaving. I am going to remain a producer on the show, but in a supervisory capacity,” explained Braga. “I’m not going to do what I did in the final season of Star Trek: Voyager. I was basically a ‘consultant’ and didn’t do anything…I’ll be more involved in the development of stories and giving Manny notes and definitely keeping a hand in the production and stuff like that. But I have a lot of faith in Manny Coto to kind of grab the reins and take on the daily creative running of the show.” [http://www.trektoday.com/news/290904\_05.shtml](http://www.trektoday.com/news/290904_05.shtml) ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/36 "2004-10-16T03:53:09Z")
Don’t worry. In Hollywood Double Speak that essentially means: “I’ll keep my name on the top and get lots of money and even some acclaim for Manny’s genius, but I’ve been leveraged out of any real control while being allowed to save face.” \* Eugenics Wars will be covered in the Brent Spiner mini-arc. Shatner may show up yet, too. I’ll be on the lookout for any real news about that. I’m really hoping Majel gets to do something on ENT. She make a clean sweep of all six series! - simply my personal take on the Summer drama we watched play out… ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/37 "2004-10-16T03:54:33Z")
Where did she show up on Voyager? And don’t say as the computer voice… that doesn’t count. Was she in any of the movies? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/38 "2004-10-16T03:55:41Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > I’m really hoping Majel gets to do something on ENT. She **could** make a clean sweep of all six series! … ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/39 "2004-10-16T03:58:30Z")
Computer voice does too count. Her voice is instantly recognisable to almost any Trekker. On the interview that [StarTrek.com](http://StarTrek.com) had for live Q&A with her, she noted herself that she had been on all but ENT. They haven’t even approached her about it. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358/40 "2004-10-16T04:02:47Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > …I’m really hoping Majel gets to do something on ENT. **She could make a clean sweep of all six series!** > [@Aesiron](#): > > Where did she show up on Voyager? And don’t say as the computer voice… that doesn’t count. > > Was she in any of the movies? [ol] [li]Star Trek – Nurse Chapel[/li][li]The Animated Series – Nurse Chapel[/li][li]The Next Generation – Lwaxana Troi[/li][li]Deep Space Nine – Lwaxana Troi[/li][li] **Voyager – ???** [/li][li]Enterprise – Yet to appear.[/ol][/li]And the voice does not count. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-storm-front-2-spoilers/269358.md?page=3)