# Enterprise Stratagem spoilers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 4, 2004, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423 "2004-02-04T02:31:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/61 "2004-02-05T21:04:27Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> Actually, they don’t have to muck with the ship’s chronometer. The _Enterprise_ crew were making it look like the Xindi humanoids had been knocked unconscious by some ship malfunction – they could have been knocked out for several days.

I can tell you this. If there is ANYTHING that happened on my ship which rendered the entire crew unconscious for several days I would certainly do a very thorough investigation. This investigation would certainly turn up the fact that the crew was not dehydrated, hungry, bearded, sitting in puddles of urine, or any of the other things which would be associated with prolonged periods of unconsciousness. In addition it would turn up a startling lack of collateral damage from an explosion which was severe enough to instantly render three crewmen so unconscious as to have this trauma last several days. And it would almost certainly turn up evidence of having been fired upon by Enterprise.

I still think this was a pretty gaping plot hole and I will be pleasantly suprised if the Xindi don’t fall into it. I think they should discover what is going on and re-inforce the weapons facility. That would make it more interesting. Of course if they still have orders not to destroy the copulating ship, not so much.

Enjoy,  
Steven

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/62 "2004-02-05T22:07:15Z")

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[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]  
So, could he play the FO that has a “thing” for Jack in the Sophie?

I don’t think grammar matters in dialogue. Lucky Jack says “ain’t” for example.

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But the use of words like “ain’t” was acceptable back then, like Jack’s use of phrases such as “you was” and “It don’t answer.” These are no longer acceptable. Maybe I just notice it more because it’s part of my job.

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**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/63 "2004-02-06T00:19:08Z")

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Hey look, my thousandth post.  
I figured I may as well make it here considering Ent threads account for about 70% of my total post count.  
Still haven’t seen the episode though.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/64 "2004-02-06T00:35:10Z")

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Heh. I still remember when you and I had dual 666th posts in the same thread. Those were the good ol’ days.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/65 "2004-02-06T00:53:00Z")

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i had 2 post 666s cuz the first one got squashed in the Winter of our Missed Content

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/66 "2004-02-06T02:49:17Z")

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Well, it’s been two-and-a-half hours, and **Wearia** ’s post count is _still_ at exactly 1000. He must be basking in the glow of his Post Count Odometer.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/67 "2004-02-06T03:29:21Z")

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Nobody noticed my 3,800th post…but I’m sure that’s only because #3800 was in a dull grammar thread about the subjunctive.

[yawning smiley]

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/68 "2004-02-06T03:55:29Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> These are no longer acceptable. Maybe I just notice it more because it’s part of my job.

One cannot help but wonder if you have a problem with “to boldly go where no man has gone before”.

🙂

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/69 "2004-02-06T03:57:02Z")

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No one noticed my 8500th!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/70 "2004-02-06T03:59:04Z")

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> [@Corner Case](#):
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> Why? What did you … think I meant? 😃

I thought you were mispelling “totally destroy the ship” or “The total ship”.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/71 "2004-02-06T04:50:44Z")

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A coital ship would be the Tin Man, Gomaatu.

Can you imagine how big its airlock must have been? :eek:

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/72 "2004-02-06T05:13:25Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> One cannot help but wonder if you have a problem with “to boldly go where no man has gone before”.
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> 🙂

Technically, I have a problem…but it’s become so accepted as to go unnoticed now.  
‘Course, I also have a technical problem with Aerosmith’s “My get up and go must have got up and went” and the Stones’ “I can’t get no satisfaction”…but I realize that they have more creative license 'cause they’re rockers.  
Is the Gomaatu related to the Mugatu?

I think I know what’s up with these smileys. They put on those gooey pore-cleaning, exfoliating masks and forgot to take them off.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/73 "2004-02-06T06:31:39Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> Well, it’s been two-and-a-half hours, and **Wearia** ’s post count is _still_ at exactly 1000. He must be basking in the glow of his Post Count Odometer.

He’s from Canada, they have to share the internet computer there, so he won’t be back until Saturday. I heard they might buy a second computer for Canada sometime next year.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/74 "2004-02-06T06:47:44Z")

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Uh-oh…

[http://www.trektoday.com/news/020204\_01.shtml](http://www.trektoday.com/news/020204_01.shtml)  
E2: Electric Boogaloo

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/75 "2004-02-06T14:23:55Z")

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(Just a side note: When the Vree come and abduct you, do _not_ tell them “Take me to your fast food”. It’s funny and all, up to but not including the point at which you are dropped onto the third moon of Wallach IX and left there for a month. I would have starved if the soil didn’t taste so good :o )

I liked it…and was fooled by the second deception but not the shuttlepod, although I was on the floor when they opened up the shuttlepod doors to reveal the launch bay. It’s just so…incongruous.

Anyone notice that they said that it would take three weeks to get to Azati Prime? If you look at the running schedule, the next two episodes are semi-filler episodes that take place en route. A nice nod…it would have been weird if they just got there next week.

I dunno about Phixerupper Phlox’s little redecoration scheme for the Xindi vessel, though. If I were Degra and woke up after several days, I would certainly investigate. Find signs of Enterprise weapon’s fire (compare with the reptilian ships Ent. damaged in the last episode) and conclude that their weapons triggered the plasma whatchamacallit. Assume they boarded, downloaded all the computer info, and left. Send messages to Azati Prime telling them to break out their DeathRays ™. Mmm…

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/76 "2004-02-06T15:07:02Z")

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> [@athelas](#):
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> it would have been weird if they just got there next week.

I find the concept that a week of TV time should be equivalent to a week of “real” time.

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**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/77 "2004-02-06T17:56:10Z")

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**viva** , do you have a grammatical problem with the above? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/78 "2004-02-06T19:00:20Z")

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> [@Tars Tarkas](#):
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> He’s from Canada, they have to share the internet computer there, so he won’t be back until Saturday. I heard they might buy a second computer for Canada sometime next year.

Your information is a little out of date. We have 2 internet computers, one in the east and one in the west. I’m in good with the guy pedalling the west generator, so I get to go on whenever I decided to make the hike.

For any Family Guy fans, it looks like Seth MacFarlane is going to be playing “Engineer” on a upcoming Ent episode [The Forgotten](http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-2498/epid-302581). I doubt he’ll be very funny though.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/79 "2004-02-06T19:04:50Z")

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> [@Corner Case](#):
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> **viva** , do you have a grammatical problem with the above? 🙂

I’m trying to figure it out my ownself…

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-stratagem-spoilers/227423/80 "2004-02-06T20:10:53Z")

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> [@Wearia](#):
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> For any Family Guy fans, it looks like Seth MacFarlane is going to be playing “Engineer” on a upcoming Ent episode [The Forgotten](http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-2498/epid-302581). I doubt he’ll be very funny though.

Engineer: Then it’s settled…Reginald Broccoli must DIE!

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