# Enterprise "The Aenar" (Spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 12, 2005, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679 "2005-02-12T00:59:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/41 "2005-02-14T07:07:10Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> I also have spies everywhere acting in various capacities as my human satellites.

So … how fast **does** a satellite have to be travelling in order to be in a stable orbit around a human?

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/42 "2005-02-14T07:28:09Z")

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Brian Thompson has made a nice living playing dirtbags.

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**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/43 "2005-02-14T17:06:08Z")

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{Sick because pediatricians have you and your child wait for a well-visit in a room with sick children}[ul][_]Nice that Shran still is off-balance due to his antenna.[_]Pretty big Aenar city for a group that’s a few thousand and is only known by a handful of Andorians.[_]Archer should have worn a snowsuit and a helmet or face mask for such low temperatures.[_]So Caleb (Big Brother Aenar) is told all Aeners were killed so, “Come join the Romulans and kill everything.” Yeah, right. And ya think he could drop their precious rule and just read the Romulans thoughts and find the truth?[_]Using T’Pol or Jhamel to disrupt the shroud ship’s control is how they phrased it at first, but didn’t I later hear them talking about making the ship turn or somesuch? That would have required pilot trining. While T’Pol would have some, I doubt Jhamel does.[_]Trip runs away too much. If they had a relationship, did he think it would be easier?[/ul]{Too fuzzy to think further}

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/44 "2005-02-14T19:42:42Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> So … how fast **does** a satellite have to be travelling in order to be in a stable orbit around a human?

That’s one for the engineers.  
Got a transmission going out tomorrow. **They** know what I’m talking about.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/45 "2005-02-14T19:58:38Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> So … how fast **does** a satellite have to be travelling in order to be in a stable orbit around a human?

Depends on the horse.

suddenly, I have an image in my head of a stallion in diapers…

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/46 "2005-02-14T21:31:19Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> That’s one for the engineers.

F= m1\*m2/D EXP2

The rest is…well, the rest is trivial. Calculate it for yourselves.  
There will be a test on Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/47 "2005-02-14T22:10:39Z")

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Motherfucking hell. I just read that Sirtis and Frakes are confirmed for the finale.

GAH! I HATE BERMAGA!

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/48 "2005-02-14T22:48:31Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> Motherfucking hell. I just read that Sirtis and Frakes are confirmed for the finale.
> 
> GAH! I HATE BERMAGA!

Maybe they’ll play Sylvia and Korob?

(hint: TOS ep 30)

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**Author:** ![the\_Lady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@the\_Lady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_Lady)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/49 "2005-02-14T22:51:02Z")

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I was about to write “maybe they’ll die horribly”

Oh wait…I just did

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/50 "2005-02-14T22:53:44Z")

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Sylvia and Korob died horribly.

I mean, it was COMPLETELY unbelieveable. :rolleyes:

Or, did you mean something different?

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/51 "2005-02-14T23:02:32Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> Motherfucking hell. I just read that Sirtis and Frakes are confirmed for the finale.
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> GAH! I HATE BERMAGA!

&\*\*%#$!)(!! I was holding out hope that it was just a filthy stinking rumor!  
AAAAAAARRRGHH!

**StableBoy** , you are so bad.  
And so am I.  
“She was only the stableman’s daughter  
But all the horsemen knew her.”  
Manure.  
Crap on the finale.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/52 "2005-02-14T23:13:13Z")

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Here lies the body of Anna Marie

Died at the age of 103

For 15 years she kept her virginity

Not a bad record for this vicinity

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/53 "2005-02-14T23:34:56Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> F= m1\*m2/D EXP2
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> The rest is…well, the rest is trivial. Calculate it for yourselves.  
> There will be a test on Tuesday.

Oh, very well. Sheesh, I’ve gotta do **everything** myself around here.

Okay. We want to know **how fast** a satellite would have to be travelling to be in a stable orbit around a human being.

Let’s assume that the human being is a rather husky adult male weighing in at **one hundred kilograms** , and that we’d like the orbit to be a **circular orbit** at a distance of **ten meters** from the center of mass of the human. At that distance, we can pretty much neglect the shape of the human and assume that all of his mass is concentrated at a point at his center of mass.

As we know from basic rotational dynamics, the centripetal acceleration required to keep a satellite moving in a circular path is v^2/r, where v is the (linear) velocity of the satellite and r is the radius of the circle. We also know, from the Plant’s equation quoted above, that the acceleration due to gravity of a satellite is MG/r^2, where M is the mass of the thing being orbited and G is the Newtonian Gravitational constant. (We’ll assume the mass of the satellite is negligible when compared with the mass of the human, otherwise the center of mass of the two-body system will be different than the human’s center of mass and the equations will get a lot messier\*.) As stated in the paragraph above, M = 100kg, and r = 10m. G, according to my handy-dandy physics textbook, is 6.672 x 10^-11 N m^2/kg^2.

So, we need to determine what value for v will provide exactly as much centripetal acceleration as the acceleration due to gravity. That requires that v^2/r = MG/r^2. Multiplying both sides by r and then taking the square root of both sides, we find that v = SQRT(MG/r). If we plug in the numbers given in the paragraph above, we find that **v = 2.583 x 10^-5 m/s** , or about 9.3 centimeters per hour.

This is roughly Warp 0.00004415 on the TOS scale.

\*) That’s “messier” as in more messy, not the guy who numbered all the nebulae.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/54 "2005-02-14T23:42:33Z")

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Convert it to Klingon.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/55 "2005-02-15T00:02:19Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> Here lies the body of Anna Marie
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> Died at the age of 103
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> For 15 years she kept her virginity
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> Not a bad record for this vicinity

The bee–he is a busy soul  
he has no time for birth control  
And that is why  
in times like these  
There are so many sons of bees.

Speaking of sons of B’s:  
Bergama x blank computer screen = fecking finale

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/56 "2005-02-15T00:10:54Z")

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We’re gonna need a bigger boat.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/57 "2005-02-15T00:14:59Z")

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Executives thought they could wreck

This sci-fi franchise called Trek

They cut off the cash

And pulled scripts out their ass

All while talking out the sides of their neck

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/58 "2005-02-15T00:24:26Z")

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What really blows now is that Utterly Pathetic Network is running promos saying “These are their FINAL voyages!”

Rub it in, why don’t they?

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/59 "2005-02-15T02:03:22Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> Convert it to Klingon.

What, you want it in Kellicams per hour or something?

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-aenar-spoilers/289679/60 "2005-02-15T05:27:45Z")

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I want everything in Quatloos.

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