# Enterprise: The Breach (spoilers after US airing) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 22, 2003, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434 "2003-04-22T21:38:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/1 "2003-04-22T21:38:57Z")
I would like to request that any spoilers before 9:00 PM EDT on Wednesday be put in a box, if that’s alright. After that, standing spoiler warning! 🙂 Here’s the summary of this episode from [StarTrek.com](http://StarTrek.com): > [@](#): > > _Enterprise_ is asked to evacuate a group of Denobulan geologists from a world that has been taken over by a militant faction, and since they are located deep underground, the effort requires some treacherous spelunking by the rescue team. Meanwhile Phlox faces a dilemma when another evacuee, an Antaran afflicted with a fatal dose of radiation, refuses to be treated by a Denobulan because of very old bad blood between the two races. Although it doesn’t make it totally clear, it seems from the preview clip that Phlox’s dilemma is that the patient is refusing treatment necessary to save his life, because of some racial grudge. Is it ethical to treat a patient who doesn’t want to be treated? “Tuvix” was one of my favorite _Voyager_ episodes, because of the strange medical dilemma it approached. I hope this one is good too! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/2 "2003-04-22T22:08:34Z")
Hey! You haven’t seen it! This is cheating! ---
**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/3 "2003-04-22T22:18:54Z")
> [@](#): > > was one of my favorite Voyager episodes [Nelson Muntz pointing] HAH-HAH [/Nelson Muntz] ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/4 "2003-04-22T22:59:38Z")
My favorite part was when Archer fell off the cliffside and T’Pol used her rocket powered boots to catch him inches from teh ground! It was so Original, i never saw anything like it! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/5 "2003-04-22T23:12:51Z")
A militant fraction? 😕 Looks like a double plot episode. Phlox is an alright character. That Sick Bay episode was cool. Will be interesting to see if StarFleet Drs have the Hippocratic Oath or not. And how exactly would it apply in interspecies relations? [hijack] Hi, Jack! [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Rue\_DeDay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/41988e/32.png) [@Rue\_DeDay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rue_DeDay)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/6 "2003-04-23T00:36:17Z")
Oh! T’Pol uses her rocket powered **boots**! Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/7 "2003-04-23T01:59:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wearia \* > Hey! You haven’t seen it! This is cheating! Worse than that, I actually tried to discuss the episode. 😉 It does look like a double-plot episode, but then, the majority of them do. One of my favorite _Star Trek_ episodes, for the plot structure, not the acting or anything else, was a quadruple-plot episode. 🙂 Anyway, we don’t need to have two threads on this episode. I thought it would be nice to have spoilers in a box or at least a warning, but I understand if that’s too much trouble; these threads really do tend to be free-form. 🙂 So, if we’d rather convene at the other thread, I’ll request this one be locked. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/8 "2003-04-23T02:09:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Achernar \* > \*\*SNIP > One of my favorite _Star Trek_ episodes, for the plot structure, not the acting or anything else, was a quadruple-plot episode. 🙂 > SNIP \*\* * * * A four-way? 😉 When was this? There don’t seem to be any spoiler warnings in the other thread. Or am I just confused? (Do I want an answer to that?) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/9 "2003-04-23T02:17:46Z")
Achernar, lets use your thread for serious discussion, and play in mine, ok? I have Opera and don’t use spoiler boxes, BTW 'cause I have to cut and paste the contents to read them. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/10 "2003-04-23T03:22:05Z")
Bah… this episode is going to suck. It’s a blatant ripoff of the Neelix episode with that dude that created the Technobabble Cascade Thingamabob. Now that I think about it, didn’t Worf once refuse to give blood to a Romulan in a TNG episode? Ripoff of a ripoff! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/11 "2003-04-23T03:36:48Z")
What other thread?!? I was actually using this one! :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/12 "2003-04-23T04:03:30Z")
The four-way was TNG’s “Disaster”. The reason I liked it is because it _was_ a four-way (and actually, looking at the synopsis, I remember now it was a five-way), even if the individual plots were seen as annoying. If there had been more four-ways, I probably would have liked them better. 🙂 Ah, sorry **carnivorousplant** , I forgot about spoilers not working in Opera. I think I heard that they work okay in the lastest version. Not telling you to upgrade; just mentioning it. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/13 "2003-04-23T04:09:49Z")
Keiko’s birth, Troi commanding, Picard dealing with kids, what, and what? ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/14 "2003-04-23T04:10:52Z")
Er, Keiko birthing Molly, I should say. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/15 "2003-04-23T04:13:25Z")
Ro in engineering… ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/16 "2003-04-23T04:15:54Z")
That doesn’t ring a bell at all. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/17 "2003-04-23T04:19:39Z")
[Also Riker and Data](http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/st-tng/episodes/205.html) ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/18 "2003-04-23T04:22:27Z")
Ro is on the bridge with Troi. Riker and Data are working their way towards Engineering. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/19 "2003-04-23T04:23:49Z")
Beaverly Crusher and Geordi in a shuttle bay… ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434/20 "2003-04-23T04:24:16Z")
Ah. I’ve never actually seen the episode. Alot of my TNG knowledge comes from the Star Trek: TNG Companion. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-breach-spoilers-after-us-airing/170434.md?page=2)