# Enterprise - The Council - spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 12, 2004, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843 "2004-05-12T19:56:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/1 "2004-05-12T19:56:38Z")
Quantum and naked Hoshi confront the Xindi War Council. T’Pol and Reed lead an away mission inside a sphere. The Sphere Builders are revealed. ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/2 "2004-05-12T20:42:47Z")
According to the first episode-photo, apparently it’s Archer and _invisible_ Hoshi who face the Xindi Council (okay, I took liberties). Reed, worried about not getting any, leads T’Pol into a Sphere with the pretense of investigating it. The caption for the second episode-photo is “Mr. Reed! No, they don’t want to see your spheres! Put your suit back on!” You notice how Nobody wears a different outfit? Even Kirk went casual now and then. Reminds me of that scene in some incarnation of “Scary Movie”. Damon Wayans asks if his light colored shirt looks gay. His friend says no. So Damon rolls up the front and sticks into his neckline to expose his tummy and he asks, “How about now?” ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/3 "2004-05-12T21:02:52Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > The Sphere Builders are revealed. Michael Crichton? ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/4 "2004-05-12T21:10:55Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Michael Crichton? No, Mel Brooks. May the schwartz be with you! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/5 "2004-05-12T21:11:02Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Michael Crichton? Yeah. And he’s terminal, man! **Corner** , nah. never mind. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/6 "2004-05-12T21:34:34Z")
> [@Corner Case](#): > > According to the first episode-photo, apparently it’s Archer and _invisible_ Hoshi who face the Xindi Council (okay, I took liberties). Plus, last week’s “On the next episode of _Star Trek: Enterprise_” promo showed a giant robotic arm grabbing someone (a MACO?) and squeezing so hard that its victim turned into warp plasma. ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/7 "2004-05-12T21:44:24Z")
> [@tracer](#): > > Plus, last week’s “On the next episode of _Star Trek: Enterprise_” promo showed a giant robotic arm grabbing someone (a MACO?) and squeezing so hard that its victim turned into warp plasma. My first thought was that it looked like a kind of Baby Huey, “Hi! Glad Ta Meet Cha!” handshake where the recipient (I thought it would be T’Pol or Reed) is shaken to pieces. [sub]Anyone want to address my question as to whether the view from the Enterprise conference room of the Lorian-Enterprise was wrong?[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/8 "2004-05-12T22:23:41Z")
Anybody taping it? My DirecTV is out due to storm and my conventional Cable doesn’t carry UPN. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/9 "2004-05-12T22:56:18Z")
Looking forward to this one! And CandidGamera, I am sure it’s a no-brainer that _someone_ will be taping it. 😉 There are always ways to get a good copy of _Enterprise_. If no one else offers, email me and I’ll shoot a copy off to you (after it aires, of course!). ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/10 "2004-05-12T23:01:32Z")
I appreciate the offer. 🙂 I may not need it… the storm has subsided and the satellite’s receiving again… we’ll just have to wait and see. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/11 "2004-05-13T00:02:54Z")
Teaser: Long recap Multiple odd time tripping people talking about time lines. SWGs? Time Tripper: “Earth MUST be destroyed” ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/12 "2004-05-13T00:04:49Z")
SWGs should be SFGs Sorry ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/13 "2004-05-13T00:11:25Z")
Act I: Awkward encounter in sickbay. Tripp and T’Pol. “He’s in a hel of a hurry to reach this damn council.” 🙂 DEATH STAR PLANS! AI in center of spheres. Reed and Janis MACO guy seem happy enough together. Is that the same MAACO guy? Degra gets visit from Time Tripper Chick. She reminds me of Alice Krieg. In a way. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/14 "2004-05-13T00:12:38Z")
Trip decides Degra ain’t so bad after all, right before he gets whacked by the reptilians. Red Shirt is whacked, too. The weapon is launched. Hoshi is kidnapped by the reps. Enterprise is dead in the water so to speak. To Be Continued… ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/15 "2004-05-13T00:13:03Z")
in the teaser… was that multiple sphere builders or the same sphere chick in mulitple copies arguing with herself…? If the latter, I propose we just call her Sybil… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/16 "2004-05-13T00:22:02Z")
Hoshi: “I was never called to the principal’s office.” HAHAHAHA – good line. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/17 "2004-05-13T00:22:38Z")
A regular length commercial break this time. After three weeks of 30 seconds between acts I and II. Is it a local thing? Time Trippers are the sphere builders. Gaurdians. But, who are they really? Why do they want Earth gone? Hoshi! The Aquatic is from the family of Ibex? Why all the Dune refs? The insectoid’s names get longer the older they get. Lizards are mean. Period. Confrontation between the Degras and a Lizard. Ah, there’s only four on the Galileo 7. The MAACO guy is a redshirt! Seriously. Malcolm, Mayweather, T’Pol, and MAACO. Who do YOU think gets to die? Hoshi says there are 67 Insectoid dialects. That’s why she’s with Quantum. The Council is in an old Avian city. Cool. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/18 "2004-05-13T00:31:33Z")
I don’t know what the shuttle crew was so worried about. a shuttle simply bounced to a halt on a sphere with no damage in an earlier episode… “Arming Cheesy CGI shields…” ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/19 "2004-05-13T00:32:35Z")
Ah, here’s the 30 second break! Between Acts II and III Act III: “I can never forgive them for killing my son.” “Manufactured Data,” makes me laugh. Hoshi seems to be programming a translator on the fly. Precurssor to UT? “You don’t want to know.” 😃 Yep. Death Star! They go in thru an exhaust vent, for Christ’s sake! A visual record from the future. The future! Ooh, an Avian skull! I bet they play a role somehow. The Xindi don’t know Time Trippers (Guardians) are Sphere Builders? 😕 Aquatics ditstrust the spoken word. Trip and Degra work together. The Sphere looks like the Krell machine. In a way. Automated Protection systems, too! WooHoo!!! ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843/20 "2004-05-13T00:34:42Z")
> [@](#): > > from _NoClueBoy_ > A regular length commercial break this time. After three weeks of 30 seconds between acts I and II. Is it a local thing? Nope – I’ve had the same here. Unexpected mini-commercial between two of the acts for a few weeks now. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-council-spoilers/244843.md?page=2)