# Enterprise: The Crossing (spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 31, 2003, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364 "2003-03-31T03:54:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/161 "2003-04-07T02:55:50Z")

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_ **KaBlooWie!!** _

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/162 "2003-04-07T03:22:02Z")

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Basketball’s still pre-empting Enterprise. I really wanted to see this show too. ☹

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**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/163 "2003-04-07T04:25:20Z")

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Hey **NCB** , have you seen Jolene Blalock’s (T’Pol) FHM shoot?  
Cause…damn!

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/164 "2003-04-07T04:44:22Z")

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Tiger-men!

**Aesiron:** I studied Shakespeare and Middle English but that was about it. No Norse-anything in college…so, thanks for the primer.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/165 "2003-04-07T05:28:05Z")

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No problem. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/166 "2003-04-07T09:49:35Z")

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Okay, I just finally saw this episode, and I managed to avoid this thread until now, to keep from being spoiled. Now I get here, and it’s nine pages (for me)! And without even reading any of them, I’m sure they have nothing to do with the episode at this point; I know you guys. 😉 Well I’m not going to catch myself up; here’s my comments:

I liked it, but that WTF was up with the ending?!?!?! Hasn’t he ever heard of a warning shot? Probably my favorite part of this episode was that it wasn’t just the seven main crew members. A lot of other people had minor roles. I’d like to see more of that. We also got to see how much of a dork Phlox is. “Whaaa. The panel won’t come off! I used every muscle I’ve got!” 🙂

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/167 "2003-04-07T12:37:49Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Achernar \*  
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> Hasn’t he ever heard of a warning shot?
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> We also got to see how much of a dork Phlox is. “Whaaa. The panel won’t come off! I used every muscle I’ve got!” 🙂 \*\*

No Prime Directive, and they screwed with his crew. Good Boy.

Phlox: Someone already pointed out that it was realistic. Imagine his guiding Archer on an apendectomy by intercom. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/168 "2003-04-07T12:54:09Z")

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Speaking of the intercom guidance scene: once again, we see shades of That Damn Defusing Scene from the Minefield episode. Do the ENT powers that be have some obsession with people being instructed to do highly complex tasks they don’t understand? Because we’ve seen it several times this season, and it’s as boring a thing to watch as the post-mortem synchronized swimming semi-finals.

Not that I watch synchronized swimming…

Re: Previous digressions in this thread - So very SDMB-esque to find a lighthearted Star Trek conversation dissolving into a comparative study of the deities of ancient Norse mythology. Gotta love it.

Now can I have my panda back?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/169 "2003-04-07T13:01:21Z")

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> _Originally posted by Kn_ckers \*  
> \*\*  
> Now can I have my panda back? \*\*

He’s in the spin cycle. If you didn’t take him outside, he wouldn’t get dirty.

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/170 "2003-04-07T13:36:55Z")

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**carnivorousplant** : In a way, I’m glad that Archer is being shown as less civilized even than Kirk, so we can see a sort of evolution. Still, it took me way by surprise. But the Prime Directive would have no bearing on this situation, since the tastebud-lacking doofuses were clearly not pre-warp.

And yes, I know the Phlox thing was realistic. That’s what I liked about it, aside from its comical aspect. 🙂

I wanted to make a sexual joke about Phlox rocking T’Pol screaming, “What’s my name?! WHAT’S MY NAME?!” but I lack the inventiveness of some people here. 🙂 And why did he need to do that, anyway? The thing that flew out of her head was blue, so clearly, she was okay.

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**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/171 "2003-04-07T14:00:04Z")

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Also, who’s to say the wisp thing wouldn’t know his name, or that the Real T’Pol would have had the presence of mind to remember it in her addled state?

And here’s your sexual joke, **Archernar** :  
He should have been saying “Who’s your daddy?!”

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**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/172 "2003-04-07T14:01:45Z")

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… Which is really gross, because it implies incest. Where the hell did that line come from, anyway? Why would people say that in a non-paternal situation?

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/173 "2003-04-07T14:10:05Z")

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It’s short for Sugar Daddy. 🆒

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/174 "2003-04-07T14:16:25Z")

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**Kn\*ckers** is _shocked_? :eek:

Now _that’s_ bizzaar.

**Achernar** , 12 pages? What browser do you use? This thread is currently at 4 in mine. The first two actually had a lot to do with the episode in the thread title. Except for all of **Viva** ’s posts. I don’t think she even watches the shows anymore. **Carni** and I did a real nice Norse mythology and Hitler dialouge about halfway through the thread, it being a real boring Sunday for both of us. Historians may like some of the links provided. I don’t know about you math guys. 😛

**Tars** revealed just how tigertamerphobic he is. (Shame!)

**Aes** is apparantly taking a very long bath.

**Tracer** even stopped by. (Hi!)

Tomorrow, we start a new ep thread. I probably won’t say a thing about the show, opting for a discourse on the new string theory instead.

Ciao

;j

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/175 "2003-04-07T14:19:35Z")

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**Wearia** , provide a link, you silly, silly person!

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/176 "2003-04-07T14:25:04Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
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> **Aesiron:** I studied Shakespeare and Middle English but that was about it. No Norse-anything in college…so, thanks for the primer. \*\*

And what were _my_ links?!? Chopped hepatic liver?!?

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/177 "2003-04-07T14:27:24Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Achernar \*  
> \*\*\*\* And why did he need to do that, anyway? The thing that flew out of her head was blue, so clearly, she was okay. \*\*

Mrs. Plant would say “He hadn’t read the script”.  
I thought that was pretty good. An effort to check that it was she. They didn’t know people’s names; Tripp called his gopher “Sir” in imitation when he left engineering.

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**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/178 "2003-04-07T16:45:53Z")

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I love that you said “…to check that it was she,” **carni** - hooray for grammar that is seldom used correctly! If you had said “… to check that it was _her_,” I’d have been all sad and stuff.

Thanks, **Archernar** - Now I’m all curious about the origin of the term “Sugar Daddy…” Because I’m thinking about it in this twisted familial way, now.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/179 "2003-04-07T16:51:22Z")

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_Twister_ is a fun game to play with 16 years old girl cousins!

(When you’re a 15 year old boy, you see…)

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-crossing-spoilers/165364/180 "2003-04-07T16:53:07Z")

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um… that never happened…

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