# ENTERPRISE - "The Seventh" (spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-seventh-spoilers/135647>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 7, 2002, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-seventh-spoilers/135647 "2002-11-07T02:32:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2002, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-seventh-spoilers/135647/41 "2002-11-08T19:04:53Z")

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…and the missing Red Shirts “Have entered the Witness Protection Program”.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2002, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-seventh-spoilers/135647/42 "2002-11-08T22:44:05Z")

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Hey, I have a question…

(disclaimer: Not a Star Trek Person, but my wife likes it and made me tape it for her)

The Acting-Captain Engineer guy invited the English guy and the Alien Doctor to the Captain’s mess for lunch, taking advantage of his new position and setting up the joke of his lousy Acting-Captainship.

He served bangers and mash to the English guy, and some sort of Alien Sausage to the Alien Doctor.

As the Engineer guy is some sort of Southerner, I was assuming that HE would be having Virginia ham and grits, or fried chicken, or black-eyed peas and rice, or some other cliche.

Yet, during the close-up of his consternated face as the intercom kept buzzing with Acting-Captain business, I noticed, on the end of his fork…_a piece of farfalle, slightly green, as if he had ordered a cold pasta salad with pesto_.

Explanation? Is this character development? An in-joke? A wry deconstruction of culinary prejudice? Anybody else notice this?

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2002, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-seventh-spoilers/135647/43 "2002-11-08T23:00:43Z")

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A.-- Which noodle is farfalle?  
B.-- To bad it wasn’t celery!

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2002, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-seventh-spoilers/135647/44 "2002-11-08T23:07:12Z")

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That’s the bow-tie shaped stuff. There’s GOTTA be a reason…

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2002, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-seventh-spoilers/135647/45 "2002-11-08T23:16:35Z")

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Buckaroo Banzai always wore a bow tie. The Paramount Trek staff is full of BB fans. Like in TNG where we learn that YoYoDine Propulsions designed the warp engines. So, Maybe it was an inside joke

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2002, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-seventh-spoilers/135647/46 "2002-11-08T23:26:25Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Ukulele Ike \*  
> \*\*Hey, I have a question…
> 
> (disclaimer: Not a Star Trek Person, but my wife likes it and made me tape it for her)
> 
> The Acting-Captain Engineer guy invited the English guy and the Alien Doctor to the Captain’s mess for lunch, taking advantage of his new position and setting up the joke of his lousy Acting-Captainship.
> 
> He served bangers and mash to the English guy, and some sort of Alien Sausage to the Alien Doctor.
> 
> As the Engineer guy is some sort of Southerner, I was assuming that HE would be having Virginia ham and grits, or fried chicken, or black-eyed peas and rice, or some other cliche.
> 
> Yet, during the close-up of his consternated face as the intercom kept buzzing with Acting-Captain business, I noticed, on the end of his fork…_a piece of farfalle, slightly green, as if he had ordered a cold pasta salad with pesto_.
> 
> Explanation? Is this character development? An in-joke? A wry deconstruction of culinary prejudice? Anybody else notice this? \*\*

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They’ve had pasta once or twice before. Does chicken tetrazini (sp?) involve pasta at all? Trip really liked it. He doesn’t eat Southern fried chow all the time.  
He certainly seemed to enjoy eating–or trying to eat–more than doing the command thing, though. And he would be second in command if T’Pol weren’t around at all. Scary thought. I like Trip very much, but he really needs to shape up.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2002, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-seventh-spoilers/135647/47 "2002-11-09T00:51:31Z")

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The real answer:

**Chef:** What you want for dinner, Trip?  
**Trip:** Uh, i’ll get back to you later…  
**Chef** (Mumbling): White bread cracker, you’re getting the green pasta!

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2002, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-seventh-spoilers/135647/48 "2002-11-09T16:11:48Z")

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Man, after watching another _Firefly_ last night, I just have to say, WTF Berman? Can’t you guys get some edgy writing like that? And “The Seventh” was one of the better shows so far this season. When Gene started this thing, it was different. So different for TV that he had to redo his pilot to get it on air. Why is the Star Trek franchise getting so lame? Didn’t _ST:TMP_ and the first season of _ST:TNG_ teach you guys anything? I’ll still watch. My parole conditions demand it. But, I’m getting worried, y’all.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2002, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-seventh-spoilers/135647/49 "2002-11-09T16:50:54Z")

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“You see that man hanging out of the spaceship with a big gun?”

Cool.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2002, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-the-seventh-spoilers/135647/50 "2002-11-09T16:57:30Z")

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Yeah, Carny, that was!

Come on Star Trek universe! Be more real! (in a Homer voice while banging on TV)

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