# Enterprise Xindi spoilers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 9, 2003, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638 "2003-09-09T23:59:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2003, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/41 "2003-09-10T22:45:07Z")

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The chat thingy was a real gnab gib. Such banal drivel. The moderation over there sucks! I’m sure many much more interesting questions could’ve been chosen, but instead they made it like a talk show. Bah! A pox on them maroons. Not a single hard or indepth question. Nothing about Porthos or Panda made it through. No Nakid Hoshi questions. Nothing about Decon or Chef.

Pakleds.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2003, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/42 "2003-09-10T22:58:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \*  
> \*\*I guess we can give up on serious discussion of the episodes this season, too.  
> ☹ \*\*

Maybe when we’ve had a chance to see the episode we can comment seriously(assuming it is any good). Until then, i claim this thread in the name of Shirtless Hoshi!

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/43 "2003-09-11T00:11:49Z")

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Watching it now. 8 PM on Wednesdays for me. Hoshi hitting on the space marines… 😉

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/44 "2003-09-11T00:14:25Z")

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Watching it right now.  
No spoiler boxes

I liked the teaser. The mix of species (or phylums?) in that Xindi council room was impressive.

Some other impressions:

Dark.

Some definite attempts at showing the hard edge. Quantum setting waterboy (malcolm) straight. Tripp’s nightmares. The _Brazil_like mining camp technology. The finger. :eek:  
More in a bit.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/45 "2003-09-11T00:25:48Z")

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Oh good god, Malcolm…

A W(panties)AD

Okay, nice little character development bit – Malcolm jealous over the other military team on board. You’re supposed to be working together. Get over it, Malcolm.

Interesting – I presume in the opening scene **all** those different looking critters were Xindi? Meaning that they have all sorts of variations – perhaps just racial differences in their world. Agree with **c-plant** – a little stretching it on the biology.

Haven’t reached the “T’Pol’s boobies” scene alluded to earlier.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/46 "2003-09-11T00:27:47Z")

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Sewage takes on a whole new meaning when it’s from about a dozen different spiecies. 31, actually.

the predictable Navy vs marines mentality rears its ugly head. let’s hope they don’t use _that_ angle too much. :rolleyes:

Hoshi’s little part was cute. They seem to like Jolene’s nipples this time around. Waiting for the major Panda.  
The mine foreman is well played.  
sewage mixed with plasma residue equals yuck. 🙂

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/47 "2003-09-11T00:34:23Z")

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did you notice it’s slightly letterboxed now?

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/48 "2003-09-11T00:39:22Z")

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Probably strays a little bit from Roddenberry’s original vision, but…

Space Marines! Oh yeah! Let’s see Malcolm’s team do that. Especially that space marine chick going one on one and kicking some alien ass. I think I’m in love…

Just glad they left Private Hudson at home… “Game over man!” 😉

So, which space marine will Hoshi hook up with this season? Duluth?

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**Author:** ![av8rmike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@av8rmike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/av8rmike)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/49 "2003-09-11T00:51:03Z")

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I believe I have a new pick-up line:

“Please, disrobe.”

Anybody in this room watch _24_? Sounds like these writers watched it and said, “that gives me lots of ideas.”

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**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/50 "2003-09-11T00:52:47Z")

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I spent the whole episode wondering about the pointy thing. They make us wait till the end for the good part. It wasn’t bad (just wait for zombie Vulcans) its much darker and angry feeling. Plus the theme is much much better. If the level of T’pol nudity stays up, I’ll be sitting pretty.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/51 "2003-09-11T00:54:36Z")

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Fish lips or not, that Vulcan has quite a shape.

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I liked the Marine’s rescue scene. The sniper takedown was cool.

Panda for the women, too. 😉

“It was a planet.” cool line, esp considering what The Bug said.

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Overall impression: Wouldn’t work as a stand alone episode. Requires you to already know the major characters and their motivations. So, new viewers may not catch some of the deep things.

For continnuing viewrers, it builds nicely from the last 3rd of last season and sets up an obvious arc. B&B are keeping their word about that. The dark tone works for me. And the violence, hatred, mistrust, and worry comes across loud and clear.

Rating: for a non Trekker: 6 at best. Too much unsaid or alluded to. For a Trekker: 8. The tone is set. Can TPTB keep us in it?

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/52 "2003-09-11T01:00:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> did you notice it’s slightly letterboxed now?

Yeah, it has been since the very beginning. You really didn’t notice until now?

I thought this was a pretty good episode, but more importantly, I think this is going to be a really good season. 🙂 At least it seems like they have a good idea where they’re going with this.

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**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/53 "2003-09-11T01:03:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> \*\*did you notice it’s slightly letterboxed now? \*\*

I always thought it was? 😕

As well, joke all you want, I’d give that Vulcan the goods. Holy shit. 😛

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/54 "2003-09-11T01:07:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Achernar \*  
> \*\*Yeah, it has been since the very beginning. You really didn’t notice until now?
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> \*\*

I just bought a new flat screen (no, not a flat TV, flat screen) TV (Sharp) today. I never noticed it on my old (realy old) Zenith.  
I didn’t pay much attention to the song, was getting beer. The guitar seemed a little different. Any thoughts?

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/55 "2003-09-11T01:12:05Z")

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God, I hate UPN.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/56 "2003-09-11T01:14:48Z")

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**Viva** , send him this asap. he needs it.  
**Aes** , future eps, watch in order. Seems like it’s gonna be important.

I love my new TV. 🙂

Anyone watcing _Jake2.0_? Kind of okay so far. Sure to be yanked.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/57 "2003-09-11T01:17:39Z")

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I’m watching _George Lopez_ on ABC. Not bad… I actually like it but it’s no Trek.

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**Author:** ![Deep\_Throat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Deep\_Throat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deep_Throat)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/58 "2003-09-11T01:33:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \*  
> \*\*I guess we can give up on serious discussion of the episodes this season, too.  
> ☹ \*\*

I used to work at a zoo. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/59 "2003-09-11T02:02:00Z")

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Which as far as I can tell means, “Yes, yes we can.”

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/60 "2003-09-11T02:02:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by bernse \*  
> \*\*  
> As well, joke all you want, I’d give that Vulcan the goods. Holy shit. 😛 \*\*

yeah, I’d like to inspect her warp core.

Set your phasers on stunning!

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