# Enterprise Xindi spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 9, 2003, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638 "2003-09-09T23:59:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/101 "2003-09-11T19:35:16Z")
I bet at the end of the season it turns out the Xindi planet was not destroyed by Earth, but by the Planet Urf. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/102 "2003-09-11T19:53:18Z")
I refuse to believe the kept Travis but ditched Porthos- it is clear who the better actor is. Maybe they should make him Helmspet. Archer: Ensign Porthos, lay in a course for Planet Nogoodnick 7, Warp 4. Ensign Porthos: Woof! See, still better then Travis! šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/103 "2003-09-11T20:26:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*I bet at the end of the season it turns out the Xindi planet was not destroyed by Earth, but by the Planet Urf. \*\* Howā€™s this for a spine-tingling loophole: Lt. John Kelly, according to _Voyager_, disappeared into a subspace anomaly in 2032, 120 years before _Enterprise_ā€™s encounter with the debris field. Otherwise, itā€™s going to have to be a pretty COCKADOODIE convenient and distressing time-travel subplot. \ Of course, we also know about the Nexus, which explains just about everythingā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/104 "2003-09-11T21:10:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monstre \* > \*\*Perhaps the result of some First Contact Misunderstanding in the future involving a Federation ship, a Xindi ship, and a gigantic can of Raid. šŸ˜ƒ \*\* Either that or they picked up a transmission of _Men in Black_ and got confused. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/105 "2003-09-11T21:16:40Z")
I didnā€™t hate the episode [this much](http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=16072), but itā€™s an entertaining read nonetheless. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/106 "2003-09-11T22:18:35Z")
**Cervaise** , wonderful link. Laughed like an idiot. _ā€œDr. McCoy, please observe. The Captainā€™s entire penis has broken off at the root. Fascinating.ā€_ ---
**Author:** ![Saxman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Saxman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saxman)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/107 "2003-09-11T22:30:16Z")
As a diehard DS9 fan who ABHORRED Voyager and everything the Braga brigade has done to Trek, and was woefully disappointed with the ā€œmore of the sameā€ they offered for Enterpriseā€™s first season, I must admit: I enjoyed last nightā€™s episode. I might damn well become a viewer again. The alien elements were so ā€œearthyā€ (no pun intended), cliched though they undeniably were, that it felt like the best parts of DS9. Well, not the BEST part, seeing as this show still lacks good characters and dialogue. But at least it had _atmosphere_. (Pun intended.) ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2003, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/108 "2003-09-11T23:01:28Z")
Greetings to **tarragon918** (Happy upcoming birthday!) and hey, **ChuckForbin** , good to see you again. **Aes** , I will send tape this weekend. It has Jake 2.0 as well and some other stuff, so itā€™s mostly full. Oh, I loved Young/Older Tripā€™s funky shirt. ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/109 "2003-09-12T00:03:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monstre \* > Iā€™d say youā€™re right about the bug. He (and his Xindi species) are the likely instigators behind the whole attack on Earth in the first place. I think youā€™re forgetting that the pilot of the attack ship was the reptilian species of Xindi, not the insectiod one. Iā€™m still not convinced that that bug is even Xindi, though. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/110 "2003-09-12T01:40:49Z")
Okay, so a few people have said Enterprise now has a gritty DS9 feel to itā€¦ or, at least, this episode did. Everyone agree with that? If so, score! And thanks, **viva**. I like stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Zap\_Rowsdower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3da27b/32.png) [@Zap\_Rowsdower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zap_Rowsdower)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/111 "2003-09-12T02:55:29Z")
I wish the series had started out more like this. It was nice to see some serious butt kicking and less of the ā€œabove it allā€ attitude that was prevelant in the Next Generation. If it keeps this level up and increases it, it could be the best of the ST shows. Although I think B&B have damaged the franchise a lot (for me) this could redeem them somewhat. Finally, where in the heck is Kn\*ckers!! ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/112 "2003-09-12T03:10:33Z")
> [@](#): > > from _Achernar_ > I think youā€™re forgetting that the pilot of the attack ship was the reptilian species of Xindi, not the insectiod one. Iā€™m still not convinced that that bug is even Xindi, though. Youā€™re right ā€“ I was forgetting about that detail ā€“ the probe pilot was the reptilian one. Although I think by this time the different species of Xindi were probably working together. I would still venture to guess that the bug will be one of those 5 species, and quite likely the species that is the primary aggressor or instigator in the whole thing. > [@](#): > > from _Tars Tarkas_ > I bet at the end of the season it turns out the Xindi planet was not destroyed by Earth, but by the Planet Urf. [John Cleese Xindi] Sorry, sorryā€¦ I just tend to get carried away, Iā€™m terribly sorry, just a misunderstandingā€¦ You see, I got this noteā€¦ [/JCX] ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/113 "2003-09-12T03:11:58Z")
**Aes** : I mailed the tape this evening. I think thereā€™s an X Files at the end of it, and who knows what else in the middle. **Zap** : **Kn\*ckers** left her crappy job behind and also the computer she used to post here, but we have informed her that there are many other computers in Mass. Letā€™s hope she gets back in contact with us soon. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/114 "2003-09-12T06:08:11Z")
I certainly liked itā€¦Purely insectisoid aliens? Excellent! Starfleet commandos? Ever BETTER! Itā€™s sure nice to see some starfleet personell with decent combat skillsā€¦and decent weaponryā€”Iā€™ve been saying it for years, either use phaser rifles that have a decent rate of fire, or let them be set to _wide-field_. Plus, the neck-breaking. Gotta love that. And, I admit that I only remembered to tune about halfway through the episode, so I have to askā€¦did they actually call the starfleet troops ā€œMarines,ā€ or did they make up some lame name for them? But I still want to see a torrid love affair, and some nuclear warheads. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/115 "2003-09-12T06:20:19Z")
The troops are MACOs, which stands for something, of which i donā€™t recall. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/116 "2003-09-12T06:22:31Z")
## What about the nuclear wessels? Oh, and before I forget: Happy Birthday, Sep. 12, to Linus Van Pelt! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/117 "2003-09-12T06:32:50Z")
Happy Birthday, **Linus**. I too am a NineTwelvey. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/118 "2003-09-12T06:37:06Z")
Happy B-Day, **Mr. B**! Oh, groanā€¦I hope Season 3ā€™s ninth ep. isnā€™t as bad as it sounds: [check on this.](http://www.trektoday.com/news/110903_01.shtml) Well, with any luck, theyā€™ll run into Mal Reynolds. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/119 "2003-09-12T06:49:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \* > \*\*Oh, groanā€¦I hope Season 3ā€™s ninth ep. isnā€™t as bad as it sounds: > [check on this.](http://www.trektoday.com/news/110903_01.shtml) > \*\* I saw that, it sounded to me like that terrible movie with George Takai that was the western in space. Except they added some race aspect. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/120 "2003-09-12T07:07:14Z")
> [@](#): > > from _vivalostwages_ > Oh, groanā€¦I hope Season 3ā€™s ninth ep. isnā€™t as bad as it sounds: > check on this. Auuuuuuugggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Pre-space-era humans abducted by aliens, taken away and forming a colony elsewhere? Gosh, what an original _coff_ Amelia idea _coff_ Earhart. Did they at least get anal probes? If itā€™s a western episode, perhaps weā€™ll get a shootout at the Sort Of Acceptable Corral? [singing] I shot the captainā€¦ But I did not shoot the admiralā€¦ [/singing] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638.md?page=7)