# Enterprise Xindi spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 9, 2003, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638 "2003-09-09T23:59:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/121 "2003-09-12T07:19:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \* > **[check on this.](http://www.trektoday.com/news/110903_01.shtml)** Oh for fuck’s sake. It’s “A Piece of the Horse Pucky.” ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/122 "2003-09-12T12:42:49Z")
Oh God now it will be Spectre behind the Gun. Last Time I checked the Original series did these short cuts because they didn’t have much money. No excuse for these lamoid story ideas. And there is this little [gem](http://www.treknation.com/episodes/season3/extinction.shtml) coming up. Crap do’t they read trek threads… wasn’t genisis seen as a crapload… why revisit it? Come to think of it, if they wanted to do a cool story arc how about this… The Earth is attacked by an unknown vessel. They follow the ion trail to… ROMULAN SPACE. A war breaks out between Earth and Romulas. Gee why do something boring like that when we can have neato aliens and spooky expanses and… Feh. They don’t know why they are failing and looking at the synopsis of a few upcoming episodes I see myself tuning out again. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/123 "2003-09-12T13:01:13Z")
Thanks **Viva** for the upcoming birthday wishes! and thanks too to **Monstre** for pointing me towards Stephen McHattie. What a prolific actor, no wonder he sounded familiar. ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/124 "2003-09-12T13:09:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kingpengvin \* > Come to think of it, if they wanted to do a cool story arc how about this… The Earth is attacked by an unknown vessel. They follow the ion trail to… ROMULAN SPACE. A war breaks out between Earth and Romulas. You’re really eager for the Romulan War, aren’t you? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/125 "2003-09-12T13:20:37Z")
It would be a damned site better than this drawn out we have to find the Xindi thing… After ten episodes it will get really tired. We have new information, oh that was wrong. Someone says they have information, oh they lied. We have got new information, oh they died before we could get it. Can you really expect this to go on for a full season? At least with a War that can make an excelent backdrop to some good dramatic stories without the artiface of being on some overly long quest. A quest to… what find the enemy and then run away faster than it took you to find them? Attack them with a single ship? I am looking forward to the Mad Zombie Vulcans though. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/126 "2003-09-12T13:25:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ranchoth \* > \*\*I certainly liked it…Purely insectisoid aliens? Excellent! Starfleet commandos? Ever BETTER! > > It’s sure nice to see some starfleet personell with decent combat skills…and decent weaponry—I’ve been saying it for years, either use phaser rifles that have a decent rate of fire, or let them be set to _wide-field_. > > Plus, the neck-breaking. Gotta love that. > > And, I admit that I only remembered to tune about halfway through the episode, so I have to ask…did they actually call the starfleet troops “Marines,” or did they make up some lame name for them? > > But I still want to see a torrid love affair, and some nuclear warheads. \*\* NOT Starfleet. Recall this exchange from last season (replayed in the teaser): InChargyGuy: “How do you feel about taking military with you?” Quantum: “I don’t mind having NON STARFLEET personel on board. Blah blah blah…” (or the essence thereof) In TNG, Roddenberry was always trying to say , mostly through Picard, that Starfleet wasn’t military. A major nit which actually got me in a Phil Farrand newsletter. * * * > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \* > \*\*Happy B-Day, **Mr. B**! > > Oh, groan…I hope Season 3’s ninth ep. isn’t as bad as it sounds: > [check on this.](http://www.trektoday.com/news/110903_01.shtml) > > Well, with any luck, they’ll run into Mal Reynolds. \*\* Where were Kirok and Miramani living? Also, there was a _StarGate 20/20_ very much like this from about three seasons ago. _:::sigh:::_ ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/127 "2003-09-12T14:33:49Z")
> [@](#): > > And there is this little gem coming up. :::sigh::: Next time, on an _all-new_ **Enterprise**! Archer is held captive on a planet by people who call themselves Yangs and Kohms! No, wait… Archer finds a world that is a big giant ocean… yeah! um… filled with… mutant jellyfish… No, next week, Archer slips into an alternate universe and enounters his evil twin! [whistles] Here, original plot! Here boy! Come! Good boy, now sit. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/128 "2003-09-12T16:52:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kingpengvin \* > \*\*Come to think of it, if they wanted to do a cool story arc how about this… The Earth is attacked by an unknown vessel. They follow the ion trail to… ROMULAN SPACE. A war breaks out between Earth and Romulas. > \*\* Hey, no fair spoiling who is actually behind the Xindi going bonkers… ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/129 "2003-09-12T17:08:11Z")
Hey, after all, it’s only seven years to the **end** of the human/Romulan war (fought with nookyular weppins). Gotta speed things up a bit… ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/130 "2003-09-12T17:20:27Z")
FYI (rating stuff): > [@](#): > > WEDNESDAY RATINGS: Wednesday’s third season premiere of Enterprise attracted 4.1 million Trekkies, up 8 percent over last May’s season finale, but off 16 percent from the show’s second season premiere last September. UPN’s new drama Jake 2.0, meanwhile, retained a promising 90 percent of Enterprise’s total audience. _And knowing is half the battle!_ G.I. Joe joke for those inclined. . . ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/131 "2003-09-12T17:36:16Z")
So ill they go the who 7 season stretch or call it quits early… any bets? ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/132 "2003-09-12T17:38:55Z")
So will they go the whole 7 season stretch or call it quits early? Any bets? ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/133 "2003-09-12T19:34:45Z")
My prediction we get this season and one more if the ratings stay the same, or just this season if they continue going south. If it does get canned this season, that’s it for new Trek for quite a while. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/134 "2003-09-12T20:34:07Z")
it’s funny when UPN starts complaining of low ratings ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/135 "2003-09-12T20:58:28Z")
I’m sure Enterprise will last seven years. What else does UPN have? 'sides, isn’t UPN a Paramount network? I don’t see Paramount getting rid of its marquee franchise like that. * * * By the way, anyone want to start a pool on how long it takes for Archer to bring a Xindi onboard as part of the crew? Or for somebody from TNG, DS9, or Voyager to make a cameo via some sort of subspace anomaly? ---
**Author:** ![Kilt-wearin\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kilt-wearin\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilt-wearin_man)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/136 "2003-09-12T21:58:37Z")
All I wanna know is why a Major in whatever the heck it is ground combat service is addressing a Naval Lieutennant as “sir”. That was the only thing that really annoyed me about the episode - Navy Lieutennants are the equivalent of Captains in the other services, and Major outranks Captain. Malcolm’s reaction to the MACO Major’s reccomendation that his men handle the rescue should’ve been “Yes, sir. May I come along to observe as _Enterprise’s_ security chief?” As for the rescue itself, I liked it. Commandos dropping from the ceiling, quiet phasers shooting quick pulses instead of “give the position away instantly” beams, and I liked the pop-up sniper scope. And Federation personnel with hand-to-hand combat skills - who’d have thunk it? ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/137 "2003-09-12T22:09:25Z")
Yes, but you got to remember this is the future and ranks may have evolved and such so that---- OMG MACO’s dropping from the ceiling!!! ```auto | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | X X X X ``` they’re attacking the thread! Run!! Run!! RUNNN!!! ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/138 "2003-09-12T22:09:47Z")
**WANT TAPE!** ---
**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/139 "2003-09-12T22:33:33Z")
I think **Aes** wants a tape. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2003, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638/140 "2003-09-12T22:34:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*OMG MACO’s dropping from the ceiling!!! > > they’re attacking the thread! Run!! Run!! RUNNN!!! \*\* I shall render them helpless with my sullen and pensive expression. Like this: … See? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enterprise-xindi-spoilers/200638.md?page=8)